Marty Humerickhouse 2 - Electric Interview

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Doug Josh (00:00.650)

because it's a rental. So with a rental, when you have a wood stove, it's kind of a hazard. You can't trust people. And so they pulled it out, they put this electric version in there. And I was like, oh, I figured they would do that. And I wonder what they did with the old one. And then she had me looking at a problem in the garage and they go out in the garage and the old one's sitting there in the garage. I'm thinking, what are they gonna do with this thing? They're either gonna sell it, store it, or throw it away. That's how it works. Right?

Just how it starts and so I'm like you know what I'm just gonna ask yeah hey What were you guys thinking about doing with this my wife and I were happy we were looking for one okay? She was oh, I'm not sure let me check with my husband, and I'll let you know so 20 minutes later she texts me and says hey Dave said that he'd be down to sell you that Just let us know what you think is fair. Huh? Yeah Now it's a it's a well-known brand. Yeah Vermont castings intrepid to mm

really it's a reputable stove and I'd check it all out it's in pretty good shape the seals might need to be replaced but that's not a huge deal okay something my uncle Pete does to his like every other year okay just cuz just regular wear and tear yeah and it keeps it humming along you know but it they've already of course they've already removed it from where it was set up so I

Doug Josh (01:30.770)

of today and she's just like all right she loves it she knows my she knows I love and I'm learning to get back to wisdom but her thought is so she is the she's the more thorough of the two of us which is wild to consider well she's the compliance officer right so she's like does it work I'm like why wouldn't work that's that that's a Josh to Doug question and you're not in that situation

But my first, my first response is why wouldn't it work? It's a very simple concept. She's like The last one you bought didn't work. It was like it worked. It didn't work well And she's you're losing this argument drastically. I know and I'm hearing it I'm hearing it Yeah, you ever hear yourself say something, you know, it's dumb and you're like the only solution is to double down Well, so basically I was like, okay, yeah, but that one the last one I bought I researched it

Here's the thing I did not research it before I bought it. Okay, which was my mistake sure this one I did research before I bought it you found out it was a reputable brand time is reputable brand a great design You can still get parts for them. All right last one I bought no one and the only people that had heard of it were the people that were complaining about it, okay? So like everyone had the exact same problem with it It was like designed in the 90s when they were first trying to get into like efficient stoves so you guys wood stoves have taken the route of Internal combustion engine

Yeah, right. They're not cool anymore. They want to be more efficient. Yeah. So now you hear a car like they get to a light and the car just turns off. Yeah. Then they go to press the gas and it starts up again. Yeah. That's like That's modern technology trying to make an old inefficient thing better. Right rather than just letting it be good and loud and rumbly and Inefficient. Uh-huh. So what they did was they introduced there's two different styles. There's a catalytic converter basically in a stove Okay, then there's what they call a re-burder. Yeah, both are designed

What's up girl? Hey, hey. We're just talking. We're just chatting. I'm just complaining about life. Well he's talking about the wood stove that he just bought. Maybe. Maybe. May had just bought. You're about to get attacked. Maybe a poor decision. At a client's house. So Josh and I have worked together for three years. And in that time he has purchased two wood stoves from clients. This would be the second one. This would be the second one. More than most. More than most people.

It is a scary trend. They tell me it's a Vermont casting. It's a Vermont casting. It's a good quality. Crazy not to buy ever. So it's a well-known brand. Retails for almost three grand. Whoa. Yeah. So what do you offer? Well, I already offered them. And I think Diane is probably frustrated that I offered what I did. But look, I'm a genuine person. And I like to think I exude honesty. So I offered them what I would try and sell it for.

Yeah, it makes sense. Like, I could say 50 bucks, but I don't, she said make us a fair offer. Yeah, that's an insult if you're like, yeah, I think so, so I said $400. Yeah. That's not like, yeah. I think for a used stove, it's like I'm not trying to rip them off. But her point was they have already removed it from where it was set up, so I can't test it. And she's like, well $400, you might just be paying them to remove their junk. I'm like, well, when you pick that way, I do sound pretty dumb, right? But,

Doug Josh (05:01.190)

I have faith that this stove will work well. And if it's not in working order, you can still get all the parts. It's like, they're easy to get them. Plus you could just blog about it. Well, there you go. Yeah, and so could the first one I bought. The first one I bought was also a customer we worked for. But the difference was, in this case, I asked this customer about the wood stove. The first one, the guy was like, I said, oh, I love wood stove. He's like, you wanna buy it? I was like, oh, sure.

Doug Josh (05:31.210)

How you getting trouble and it was like a hundred bucks and he was like happy to like he's like yeah Yeah, no problem. It took like five of us Trailer to get it out of there. Yeah, and so then when it came when I realized it was terrible I had to get rid of it Somebody was like well you just sell it. I'm like I'm not gonna pass this on. It's a gemaji. I'm not gonna give this This thing has to be put out of service for everybody you light your first fire and it is like

Doug Josh (06:02.991)

So sorry to catch you. But here's the thing, it's like, and she brought that up, she's like, well, remember the first one? I'm like, all right, first off, that does not live in my memory as a bad thing because I had a blast getting it. You're not your wife. I had a blast getting it. We did burn a couple fires in it that did work. It just doesn't, it didn't work well. Well, it's a huge space too. Then Daniel and I had a blast getting rid of it. I have never taken a cast iron stove to the scrap yard and watching that machine just like pluck it off that thing and crush it.

The whole thing, I enjoyed everything. I make experiences out of things. Okay. Right, so like. It's a $400 experience. At worst. I've paid way more for terrible experiences, you know? People spend that much on drugs that are gone the next week. Man, I should have. This thing even. Yeah, it could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. It could be.

Doug Josh (06:48.710)

I was talking weed, I mean 400 bucks, that's you know. Yeah, you could get enough weed for a weekend with 400 dollars. Back in the day. Back in the day. So anyways there it was. There you were, damn so. So here's where we stand, because look I really like Melanie and Dave. I think the more I get to know them they're great clients, they're great people. So I do think I have faith that the stove will work, I think 400 is a fair amount. Yeah, that's not reasonable. But to honor my wife and myself.

specter and continue to be married, I'm going to basically go to them and present the issue. Very Chris Voss-like, which is like, here's the deal. I think this is a fair price. I think it's a great stove. My wife presents a good point. I don't know if it works. How am I supposed to pay $400 for stove if I don't know if it works? Yeah, it's a reasonable question too, in terms of being reasonable. Yeah, because so then what I'm basically looking for is for them to be like, well... It works.

somebody else or other works. Which is, what do you say to that, right? Oh, okay, well I guess I'll take it now. Excellent, make it 500. Hahaha. You're sort of short works, let's go up in price. Can you help me get it home? I gave my truck to a gentleman at the roundabout. There was a nice guy asking for my vehicle and I just couldn't say no. So, I basically see what they say. Like, look, I'm not going anywhere, they're not going anywhere.

Maybe they'll let me hang on to it and then when I can get it hooked up and test it and works fine I'll pay them. I don't know. Yeah, maybe they'll just say look we were gonna dump We're gonna just take the landfill get it out of here. They might you're right. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, I really want this stove. Okay. It's a nice small one. He's it all that's occupying your mind at the moment. Yeah So on Tuesdays when all this took place I went back there today because I did more work out I finished up my work early and then I went out there to be with it and

So I was one of the, make sure everything was, I'm like, okay, my wife is wanting me to be more critical. I view all the things that I want with her as color glass. She wants you to be more critical. I, well, because here's the thing. Yeah. In electrical work, it's a different world. It's true. When it comes to buying vehicles and stoves, you're like me. I'm like, I love it, I want it. You're like me when I see a Milwaukee Pack out. But then they have like a new Milwaukee Pack with like butterfly wings. I'm like, it's.

Doug Josh (09:19.310)

I got a video to Subaru I'm looking at and like this thing is so cool She's like that should not be the first point that you presented me with Well, she's right. She's right. She's right like that should be the first point. She should present you Look how cool this car is. What if she's taking notes? This is how she will sell me on future things that she wants. Yeah. Yeah, we should go to home goods because it's so cool Yeah, I'd be like awesome, you know Sign me up. They've got some badass shit at home good. You're like really? They've got like all-wheel-drive

lamps and stuff. Awesome! Yeah, so my problem is with those two items I tend to I tend to not worry about the work. So I said I like making experiences right? So looking at that first wood stove, she saw it as a flop. $100 spent, a bunch of work put into it. I saw it as everywhere along the way I had a blast. Like getting you and John and Ryan out there to keep the thing. I had to build the platform. Yeah, it was a fun time. I love it.

that right and hang out with you guys get to really hang out John was fun get it back to the shop my stepdad came out I love spending time with him yeah hook it up yeah we cleaned out the whole barn you know it's like a split a bunch of boys like I did have some fires in it yeah I learned I learned about so okay that stove was a poorly functioning stove but also and hey hey you can't have it in like a completely wide open space there needs to be a level of yeah vacuum totally some degree

and the height to which the pipe goes up outside and I learned a lot. And so it's like, oh, okay, so now I know what I'm looking for in the next one. There you go. You're looking. This is the next one. Oh, hell yeah, all right. And so I'm seeing it as like my upgrade next. And 400 bucks versus $2,800. Dude, I think that's a really good price for it, especially once you find out that it does function, because I would imagine it will. It is a simple concept. Even if I have to do a little more.

Doug Josh (11:20.091)

Is it the last one? No, no, no. That's what I love about it. It's tiny. Cool. That's great. Flat top. You get... Cooktop. Yeah, cooktop. That's awesome. Which the other one had... Some of them have this and I don't like it. So I grew up with one that was flat top, cooktop. Paro went out and we were heating water on it. We made popcorn on top of it. Totally, man. Yeah. We baked bread on it. Like, really cool. It's awesome. Some of them, they wanted to be safer.

Doug Josh (11:48.550)

with all this safety. The hazards of hammers, right? That's gonna be forever like our saying. That's like we were saying earlier with the, you know, well now you can't have wood stoves have to be more efficient. Well, you know, back in the day, we used to just cough and that's how we got it out. You know, what are we, oh, you're gonna not cough? You're not gonna know how to cough anymore. I'm not gonna cough. I'm not gonna cough. I'm not gonna cough. I'm not gonna cough. I'm not gonna cough.

Doug Josh (12:10.350)

Stupid thought so it's got like the double layer insulation So yeah, I so my wife with the last one we had she bought me this little one of those little fans You ever seen my little fans they put on top of them. I do yeah I had those are really cool. Yeah from an engineering standpoint because they just run off the sheer heat right the radiant heat Causes it to spin and blow yeah hot air off. Yeah, because it was double insulated. It didn't work This is stupid. Yeah bad idea They tried it They over-engineered

and then it didn't work. And that's how a lot of them are. Okay. You know? But, so this one I'm excited about, and if it functions, I mean, dude, we have another client.

Doug Josh (12:53.770)

drawing a blank, but she has two pellet stoves in her house. She's a Western Marylander, so I'm fond of that as well. That's the mountainous region around us. And she put those in, her electric bill went from 800 a month to 180 a month. She's paying $800 a month. What kind of heat did she have? Just baseboard heat, radiant? All electric, yeah. She's the one with the ceiling heat. What's her name?

Doug Josh (13:24.750)

Casey McConn. Yes, right over here, right? In town, yeah. Yeah, right behind the high school. Oh, we'll have to talk about heatboard, ceiling heat at one point. Yeah, but so anyways, if this thing saves me, heck, it saved me $400 a year, I'd make up my investment the first year. Yeah, these are good practices for like when you have these debates with your wife. These are good like, I should try to be less agreeable

interaction so that you get a little bit more trim. I'm not a very good sparring partner. I'm like, that sounds awesome. Well, you know what it boils down to for me is the problem I have with her, because I like her a lot. The problem I have with her. Well, no, when she pushes back, I'm like, all right, fine. We don't need to do it. She's like, no, that's not what I'm saying. She's like, I'm just trying to poke some holes in your very short argument. And so which I respect. But I'm like, well, I don't want to fight. It's like.

You can see you haven't spent any time thinking about this and you're going strictly on emotion right now So I'm gonna go ahead and interject with that simple Question the fact is have you seen it function? We do have like you and I we have a level of trust. Yep I said Diana look The reality is yeah, I think it'll work. I think it's a good investment. Yeah, and then she's like let's buy this cool Like yeah, no problem. Yeah worst case scenario a hold of the game see if it doesn't work out Which is no never I think ever buy a third stove

I think that's the best thing about being a spouse is that you can keep tabs. You know what I mean? Keep a running list. Relationships are about holding things back until you really need them. It's about having the last word. We should do a relationship podcast called Why'd She Leave? I don't get it. Who knows? Anyways. Man, so new stuff.

Think oh, you want to see picture. I do want to see if you have a picture of it Of course you do I got a multiple man. That's so cool guy And that's the other thing so I don't know Wood stove people if you're a wood stove person, I love wood stoves. What's a great yeah commonly just like a Central heating and air conditioning system commonly misunderstood in terms of sizing okay most people think Bigger is better. Yeah, because hey It's if you're undersized You're never gonna heat or cool the place

properly, but if you're oversized it's gonna do it quickly. With central heating and air conditioning systems, if it's oversized it's bad because it doesn't run long enough to properly circulate your air. Air conditioning doesn't run properly long enough to to dehumidify the air, right? So it does have to be sized properly. For a wood stove to function properly, you burn that thing full blast. That is how you keep the creosote out of the chimney? Got it.

It burns hot. And that's how it burns efficiently. An inefficient fire is one that smokes a lot. Those that smoke you see is fuel that could have been burnt. So a really clean, well-burning stove, if you look at the chimney outside, you shouldn't see any smoke coming off of it, except maybe when you very first started. Now the caveat to burning the stove full blast is if it's sized large, you are gonna be melted. It's gonna be too hot. Your walls are gonna be dripping. So you wanna size the stove,

for the room. For the space. Okay. Yeah. So that you can run at full blast. It makes perfect sense, man. Yeah. But a lot of people don't think about that. So, well, when did you get... Were you always like a dad? It's okay. You always... You have like such a dad, like you're... You have a dad approach to everything. Like you're... Like Woodstove's. I love that. I love that you're like, let me tell you about Woodstove. Sit down, everyone. You're 1793. Yeah, dude. That's the... She's a beaut.

Doug Josh (17:24.370)

It's got a glass a glass front so a glass front is amazing because yeah, yeah, so this is Vermont Vermont casting You're saying all the right There's the top. Oh look at that. Yeah, so that part hinges open the beautiful Oh, that's beautiful. I love it. It's a 16 inch log. Okay, which is the perfect size I've had a so stove of this size before yeah, you only fit a 12 right on that's kind of inconvenient It's another one of those things you don't think about till you

standing in front of the stove and you're like, oh, I gotta re-chop all this wood. None of the wood I have fits the stove. Right? Things to think about. It's a, there's a lot to think about. Anyways, there it was. Anyways. So I want a long story short, I want a stove and to stay married. Aw man, you want it all. I don't know, that's your asking a lot. Ha ha ha ha ha. I want to stay married and be myself. Well. When we first, when we got the last one installed

because that's where I had it. The first night of fire to fire up was really exciting. Diana smiled and she looked at me and she goes, am I ever gonna see you again? She's like, no. Yeah. No, you're not. Yeah, I mean, I'd love to. One thing I lack in my properties of garage, I want a garage so bad. I just wanna stand out behind it with the door open and like Kenny Loggins playing her song. I'm all right.

of the neighborhood kids. Drink some garage beer. Yeah, drink some garage beer, just saying hi. Out of that lukewarm 90s fridge. Yeah, it's like a mini fridge, but the compressor's putting out like 12 and a half amps the whole time. It's got a bunch of natural lights and a few Gatorades. Don't touch the Gatorades. Natural light, ugh. That's what Bernie used to drink. Is that right? Yeah, a nanny light. That's when you just don't care about yourself. About, hey, Drake, that's a place of water.

I was doing 100. So as I get older, I think about that too because I'm such a, like, I like to try different beer, but I also like to not spend a lot of money on beer and I feel like a sucker if I'm spending too much on them. You know what I'm saying? So you find that happy place. But then I am sometimes tempted to get like a 30 pack of something that's just like 12 bucks, but I'm like, dude, I am gonna feel like trash. Number one, I don't need to drink that many beers. That's a lot of beers. That's like, that's a lot of beers. I want to. That would be a lot of fun. I've done it.

Doug Josh (19:55.010)

But we're getting to the latter part of the lifespan. Zero to 40? We're in the twilight of our days. Yeah, zero to 40. Do the 20 beers, 20 beers, money smears. His theory was, so his hangout was his garage, and in the summer he had his cabana he built off the back. I helped him build the whole thing. It was a really cool process. But he built the whole thing with scrap wire that he took to the scrap yard and beer cans.

So we would go to scrap yard we would go to financed it with he financed it Yeah, but here's the thing so his it was like this There's like an episode of friends or cheers like every every day his friends would just stop in we went over there Yeah, he wasn't there, but yeah, he get he would get mad at you if you would like knock on the door or something You just come on. Yeah, what's ever just come in? Yeah, and so people would and people would come by and hang out there when he wasn't there Huh, it was welcome. Yeah, I do it too and so they grab a beer and then so he most of his beer would be like 50% Of his beer would be drunk by other people Yeah so

I'm not buying expensive beer with everybody else. Makes perfect sense, man And he's like plus, you know, so yeah, it's like how he stayed hydrated. Wow. He just didn't drink water pretty much Huh, unless it was like August and we're on job site. It's really hot the older I get man The more I'm just like I like little by little by little incrementally just becoming more hyper-focused on My health Yeah I'm reading a new book by Peter a tea. I was listening to it. It's called Just released it right. Yes. Yep. Outlive

It's called Out Live. It's great. So far so good. What a cool book. What a cool guy. Him and Huberman are very similar. You mentioned the other day about Huberman. I feel the same way about it. They're both brilliant. It presents stuff that I think is really interesting. And they also both ruin life. They ruin everything. I know. Well, so his whole take on this book is that like medicine, modern medicine, and we're going to have to jump in here with Marty here shortly. We get to. We get to. We're going to get to.

Doug Josh (21:54.230)

It's all about how my medicine Had really it starts to address issues as you get diagnosed with an issue, but his obviously it's yeah Obviously there's you know he gives he does the iceberg comparison where like by the time you get to the top of the iceberg You're it's way too late. So things like coronary heart disease all simers dementia Diabetes all these you know They all they all are these long things that start

Doug Josh (22:23.950)

way before. It's not until you, so anyway obviously he thinks medicine should step into the preventative realm which it is, but there's lots of interesting information in this book for sure. One thing he said that I, on, he's done it at this point, I think him and Huberman have developed like a little bromance. Okay. Because they've done more episodes together in like the last six months. Oh good. Than like any other person. They probably hang out and do nothing fun. Yeah. And he mentioned something. I guess we could work out again. To Huberman,

Doug Josh (22:53.810)

feel better because we're so focused on like eating the right stuff. I eat so much junk today and it's like weighing on my mind. But like he said like they were talking he's like of all of his studies he's found what is the most beneficial to a person's life other than sleep is weightlifting. Okay. Of all the exercise specifically... Here comes Marty. Weightlifting.

Doug Josh (23:23.830)

exercise his weightlifting powerlifting power he said okay because it's it's they're all the explosive movements yeah but he said he's like before he's like unless you have your your exercise house in order it's not even discussed diet like that's how much he's like there's so much nuance and yeah that's a great point that's what popples said about diet too he's like I don't envy anybody in that field because like the studies are all they're all over the place and they're all over the place and everybody's different every person's different every

Exercise wise it's like yes, it's across the board. That's what that's what he up Tia was saying in the book. Yeah, he's like the one thing that changes everything at his exercise It changes it all

Marty Humerickhouse (24:07.522)

Hey, how's it going?

Doug Josh (24:08.671)

Quality Yeah, boy Levels yeah, let me see let me look at your levels Josh go ahead and say something. Hi. I'm Josh. Yeah, you look good man You love it. Look good. You look sexy. All right. Hey, what up, dude?

Marty Humerickhouse (24:12.146)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (24:19.364)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (24:22.762)

Good man, how's it going?

Doug Josh (24:25.050)

Going good. This is Josh. I don't know if you and Josh have officially met. We have not. What's up man? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Where are you at right now?

Marty Humerickhouse (24:28.482)

Hey, nah, nice to meet you.

Marty Humerickhouse (24:35.042)

Downstairs and a little storage to hide away from the family. Yeah, yeah, so if you hear footsteps running up above that's them. They my stepfather has some friends over so you might hear yelling and screaming a little bit. We'll see.

Doug Josh (24:41.382)

Yeah. Yep.

Doug Josh (24:46.950)

same.

Doug Josh (24:54.450)

Cool. Yeah, you never know here too. We're in the living room today. I've had some internet issues in the upper floor, so I just ordered a new extender point in the hopes to fix it with Wi-Fi before running cables. Well, tradition's always trying to avoid running wires.

Marty Humerickhouse (24:57.902)

Marty Humerickhouse (25:06.646)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (25:14.665)

I know that's, I mean, like even at my house, I'm like, it's totally old. It's like 1920s, I think, or 30s. You know, old part is slow. So I've had to like run MC wire. I mean, you can see it right there, you know, just to make stuff work again. And so totally know that. Yeah. And it's.

Doug Josh (25:22.850)

Okay.

Doug Josh (25:29.290)

Yep. Yep. Same. Yeah, man. So what's been going on since we last spoke, dude? You, um, since we last spoke, I feel like you just picked up your journeyman's license, right? How's life been as a journeyman?

Marty Humerickhouse (25:43.363)

Yeah, so...

Marty Humerickhouse (25:46.142)

It's been great. You know, it's definitely, I feel like I've stepped up my game like 100%, you know, going from, you know, going from kind of like an apprentice and like really learning to any see and then to now and like fully running jobs, custom homes and, you know, it's crazy. It's so busy. Like I've been, I think I've done work six days a week for the past four weeks. And then yeah. And so this weekend, I'm like, I'm taking it off.

Doug Josh (25:51.513)

Oh, for real, alright.

Doug Josh (26:05.613)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (26:11.450)

Wow. Woo!

Marty Humerickhouse (26:16.182)

I need a day, you know. But yeah, it's crazy. We have an apprentice or I have an apprentice now. So he's under me. Yeah. Um,

Doug Josh (26:16.270)

Yeah. Nice.

Doug Josh (26:23.030)

Okay, so, all right. That's awesome. And is that, are you with the same apprentice every time you're out on the road doing your thing? All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.

Marty Humerickhouse (26:33.482)

Yeah, yeah, so Kevin, that's his name. So he's been with us probably six, seven months. So he's mostly with me. Sometimes he'll go with Sean, but most time, he's always kind of going with me.

Doug Josh (26:39.555)

Okay.

Doug Josh (26:45.235)

Alright.

Doug Josh (26:49.070)

How old is he?

Marty Humerickhouse (26:50.942)

He is 27.

Doug Josh (26:53.610)

Oh, okay. He's a man.

Marty Humerickhouse (26:55.182)

Yeah, yeah. You know, so he used to work for a company that probably three years where they kind of taught him like just get it done, but didn't really show him much, you know, so he kind of, he left there and came on board with us. So it was kind of like, hey, this is how we do it. You know, this is how like it's okay to slow down, you know, we, you know, try to get it done right first time. You know. So,

Doug Josh (26:57.094)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (27:06.850)

Okay.

Doug Josh (27:13.816)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (27:17.570)

That's right.

Doug Josh (27:21.250)

That's right. That's right. That's right.

Doug Josh (27:24.690)

It's funny, yeah. It's a problem with our industry, man. It's just, I feel like of all industries, the electrical industry, what's valued above all is speed. It's like everyone I've ever worked for, it was like speed, speed, speed. Everyone's bragging about how fast they are and how fast they can do this and that. It's like, I mean, if you can do it well and quickly, that's great, but it's like, you should be able to do it well. It's like, I mean, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

Marty Humerickhouse (27:25.102)

Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (27:33.607)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (27:44.044)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (27:47.402)

Yeah, and that's like what I talked to Sean. I'm like, man, you know, I might not be the fastest anymore, but I'm a thought-a-cool to where I actually end up being fast because I don't have to go back and double-do stuff, you know?

Doug Josh (27:58.650)

That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I finally, I mean, I'm, dude, I'm 18 years in. And about four or five years ago, around the time I got my master's, I was like, you know what? It's who I am. I'm just fine with being a slow electrician. You know, Doug's faster than me. Pretty much everyone's faster than me. That's just who I am. So it's like, if something has to happen quickly, we put Doug on it. Yeah. You know, but for the most part, it's like, I accept it. It works really well too, because when we do projects, like there's always going to be more detailed,

Marty Humerickhouse (28:00.986)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (28:12.142)

Yeah. There it is.

Marty Humerickhouse (28:19.266)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (28:23.027)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (28:28.910)

work and there's going to be things that just need to get done to get to the point of that detail and they both take about the same amount of time. Typically the stuff that needs to get done is like a heavier labor load and the stuff that's detailed just takes more time. And so Josh, it's great with that dynamic because we almost don't have to talk about who takes what side of the project because we just trust each other to facilitate that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (28:35.766)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (28:47.622)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (28:51.222)

Yeah, that's how it is working with Sean, you know, like we don't even have to talk. And so we're starting to get that way with Kevin, you know, and so that's, I'm kind of trying to take a different approach now. Like I'm still trying to teach him as we go, but also going towards his strengths, which is he's like a bulldog, you know, you send him running wires, he's gonna be all over the place. So I'm like, okay, I will hang the boxes or be more specific and say, hey, let's run this line, you know,

Doug Josh (28:53.771)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (28:57.050)

Cool.

Doug Josh (29:13.435)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (29:21.202)

this if we're on a time sensitive kind of try to get stuff done. But then also give him a little bit more freedom of figuring things out, you know, and being like, Hey, I want you to look at this cabinet plan and, you know, let's figure out where the outlets are going to go. So yeah, it's crazy going from that apprentice to the journeyman. That and like out here, we don't have the masters. We just have the general journeyman.

Doug Josh (29:41.150)

Cool.

Doug Josh (29:49.992)

Okay.

Marty Humerickhouse (29:51.942)

which I guess is, I don't know if it's kind of like the masters for out there. Yeah. So learning how to like run a job effectively, dealing with contractors, making decisions and saying, hey, no, that's not going to work is a totally different ballgame, you know. Yeah.

Doug Josh (29:54.830)

I think so, yeah. Yeah, it sounds like it.

Doug Josh (30:10.050)

It is a different ball game, right? It's like you have to like, your apprenticeship is like figuring out the trade and how to do it and how to, you know, how to know what to expect, how to know how to be helpful, how to start to finish, complete a job. But then once you get in a responsible role, you pick, you get your journeyman's or your master's, whatever the case, then you have to like turn around and try to explain to somebody else what you just learned in a way that they can understand it and, and be diligent about it.

Marty Humerickhouse (30:36.843)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (30:39.950)

like their process and double check their work because you gotta be kind of on them. That was one thing we realized with like having an apprentice is like you've gotta be really on them. Yeah, I mean, especially like you owe them that as well because they're in an experience where they're trying to learn. And so their feedback depends pretty heavily on you watching what they're doing. Like if you have a teacher that never grades your papers, you're not, you're like, I think I did great. You know, I'm pretty sure I did. I nailed that one, but I'll never know.

Marty Humerickhouse (30:46.802)

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (30:51.785)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (30:55.664)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (31:10.114)

Exactly.

Marty Humerickhouse (31:10.442)

Yeah. And that's something I've been kind of, I'm getting better at it, double checking, kind of going back, you know, and, and trying not to ever get frustrated because that's a, you know, tough thing to do too. You know, be patient and explain. So like, if I ever have to do a correction, I explain to them why, you know, as I said, I'm saying, I tell them like, hey, look, I'm just being nitpicky, you know, it's not a code violation. It's not this. It's just because that's how I like it. But, you know,

Doug Josh (31:23.471)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (31:34.210)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (31:38.671)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (31:40.567)

and

Marty Humerickhouse (31:43.422)

Where was I going with that? But yeah.

Doug Josh (31:45.670)

Well, they maybe do this, Kevin. They learn by your example, too. I mean, there's part of showing them and teaching and talking to them, but when they see you come back over and say, actually, it looks better this way, like there's a million ways to skin a cat when it comes to doing the kind of work we do, but showing somebody how to do something and it's clean, that's the way. Yeah, they'll learn by, they'll wanna, if he's competitive, he'll wanna be as good as you. He'll wanna do what you're doing, right?

Marty Humerickhouse (31:57.666)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (32:01.902)

Marty Humerickhouse (32:07.962)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (32:14.022)

Yeah, exactly. And so yeah, there was something that actually just watched recently, I think it was on a little electrician you talking about being a journeyman and some of the things you don't realize. And one of them was talking about like some days you just don't get any work done. You know, and I was like, totally get that, go start working, I'm like, cool, I'm gonna get a bunch of stuff. And then the contractor calls me. I'm like, okay, what's going on? You know, oh, hey, just we're dealing with the flights and we're making decisions. And then, you know, I'll go help Kevin

Doug Josh (32:15.290)

askings.

Doug Josh (32:28.135)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (32:44.002)

back to the box and I'm like, what was I doing? Oh yeah. And then, you know, Kong Mason guys come over, hey, we need this move. And, you know, so it's been a lot of that. And I'm like, man, I feel like I got nothing done today. Yeah.

Doug Josh (32:55.091)

big time.

Doug Josh (32:57.570)

But you got so much done. You know, all of that stuff is part of the process too. And it's like, that's another part of the managerial, moving into the managerial process is like, I think we equate getting stuff done with physical labor. And now, well, I got, I knocked out these things, but, and that's all part of it. And that needs to get done too. But that contractor needs to be communicated with. The client needs to be communicated with. The drawings need to be looked over. All of that stuff's just as valid. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (33:13.209)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (33:18.802)

Marty Humerickhouse (33:21.412)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (33:27.550)

I spent a lot of time, once I moved into that role, it's like I was doing work and I would give the apprentice something to do and then they would come back really quickly afterwards and be like, all right, I'm done, what's next? And it's like, I did that for a little while where I'm like just barely ahead of them because I'm also trying to pull wires or I'm also trying to tie in boxes and what you realize, like an old experienced guy told me, he's like, man, really your job is making sure that they're set up for success. So it's like you said, it's like, lay all the boxes out, make sure all the obstacles

Marty Humerickhouse (33:27.747)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (33:42.931)

No.

Marty Humerickhouse (33:54.507)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (33:57.670)

pop up in the next two or three days are kind of set up so that they can just roll and it's like you really do have to get into like all right do we have all materials you know it's like have we had all the answers from the from the client or do we know where the locations how heights of pictures yeah yeah just because this guy this guy was a really bad drug addict who would who eventually they found him dead oh no didn't work out well

Marty Humerickhouse (34:04.806)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (34:14.586)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (34:18.822)

Thanks.

Doug Josh (34:27.570)

but he was really good at his job. And I was like, those two don't go together to me. And so what I realized is he was so motivated to get off of the job site to go do drugs, or steal stuff to sell for money to do drugs, was that he got really good at setting the crew up so that they could roll. Because his jobs got done and they got done well. The crew was always happy because they had plenty of things like they never had to ask him questions. Because he spent his whole time making sure the job was set up and ready to roll.

Marty Humerickhouse (34:41.631)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (34:49.852)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (34:57.550)

about. So I was like, all right, if I can do all that without dipping out and drugs, or maybe we've got an untapped resource where your journey now, how do you feel about cocaine? Maybe we try that. Maybe we see how meth works out. You know, it's it seems like it could be pretty productive. That was one of those things.

Marty Humerickhouse (34:59.002)

Thank you. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (35:03.185)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (35:07.449)

Bye. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (35:11.827)

Bye. Oh, be on it. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (35:18.302)

Uh-huh. Yeah, it's, and like one thing, yeah. And so now lately I've been making sure to do like checklists. So like I go through walks, take a checklist, this needs to get done, this, this, this. And then the morning when Kevin and I roll up, I'm like, hey, let's review what still needs to get done. You know, and say, okay, I will take these items, you go ahead and take these items. And then if it's a little more detail oriented, I'll be like, okay, let's go look at this

Doug Josh (35:37.192)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (35:48.302)

walk you through it, you know, and then we'll come back to it. So, yeah.

Doug Josh (35:49.350)

Yeah. Yeah. That's great, man. Yeah. It's it's there's a funny thing that I learned when with working with our apprentice was that there is that there's this like fine line between having setting them up and getting them getting them set and like focused and getting ready and doing too much for them where where you start you start to set an expectation to them that you're going to set them up. And I noticed that.

Marty Humerickhouse (36:12.164)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (36:19.470)

where I was like trying to buzz around a project site and make sure everybody had what they needed while I was in the middle of doing things too and just being energetic and helpful to try to speed things along. But what I noticed was he would ask me for things that he should just go get. And it made me think like, he was like, hey, I'm almost out of screws. And I was like, well, you should go grab some screws. You know, like there's a part of that where it's like, well, I'm not your screw go get. Go get some screws, what are you talking about? But you had been.

Marty Humerickhouse (36:23.914)

And.

Marty Humerickhouse (36:39.924)

Hey.

Marty Humerickhouse (36:46.007)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (36:49.102)

Doug Josh (36:49.350)

You had been doing that. You had been dropping them off. I had been, exactly. So he, in his mind, he was like, this is what Doug's doing for me. Even I was like, oh man, thanks Doug. I know, I know. I'm out of screws, Doug. So where's the line, right? Where's that line?

Marty Humerickhouse (36:58.602)

Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (37:01.802)

Yeah, it's like trying to find that even medium of like, okay, send him out on his own so he could kind of figure it out, but also keep it an eye on him. Because I think I was doing that too, like just watching over his shoulder a little bit too much, you know, I'm like, okay, like that doesn't help them in the long run. If I'm sitting there and always checking up like, oh, you need to drill this hole or, you know, like, I gotta give him a little room to figure it out, you know.

Doug Josh (37:19.057)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (37:24.118)

Sure, you can figure it out.

Doug Josh (37:26.750)

Well, he's 27 too, so I think that's got to play a role. Like, is he, what's his work ethic like? Is he self-driven? Cool. Cool.

Marty Humerickhouse (37:29.602)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (37:37.405)

Yeah, it's kind of just like what Sean did for me. He kind of threw me out to the wolves a little bit. And same thing, last time I did this, I was learning. And even when I go home, I'm studying all this stuff. I don't know. So even now, especially being a journeyman, now I'm expected to have these answers or find them.

Doug Josh (37:43.250)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (38:00.530)

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (38:04.483)

I feel like that's a huge difference too, is like, yeah, not calling Sean and be like, hey, what is this? I'm like, hey, yeah. I'll be like, hey, this is what Coach says, this is what I think I'm going to do. You want to do that. And he's like, yeah. You know.

Doug Josh (38:06.011)

It's a huge difference.

Doug Josh (38:12.495)

Well, what's the book say?

Doug Josh (38:18.457)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (38:21.390)

Yeah. Yeah. I used to work for a guy, and we'd be riding together in a van, and one of the other employees would call, and he would look at the phone and then ignore it. And I'd be like, you think that's important? He's like, well, they'll probably figure it out. And if they don't, maybe they shouldn't be here. So there's a level of like, yeah, there are two points in their career where they need to be able to try and figure it out. Yeah. There's a lot of it. Yeah, there's a lot of like.

Marty Humerickhouse (38:25.302)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (38:31.627)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (38:49.302)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (38:51.350)

especially in our industry. There's a lot of just figuring it out, period. There's a lot of like, when I was a younger man, I was working for a guy and he was teaching me how to do some back end coding computer stuff, nothing like, I was just helping him and I was learning in the process. And I was kind of under the impression that people who were good at computers were just like that. They just had this mind and they were good at it. And then I asked him for some help because I didn't know how to do something.

Marty Humerickhouse (38:56.405)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (39:14.326)

No.

Doug Josh (39:21.610)

and he just started clicking around on the screen. And I was watching him do it and I was like, are you just clicking around? He's like, yeah, I'll figure. I go, if that's what you're doing, I can do that. And it was a real eye-opener for me because that's the truth. It's like even as master electricians, Josh and I call each other and just start, even if we know what the code might say about a specific thing or what the rules might be, everywhere you live, there's all kinds of situations where you wanna check in.

Marty Humerickhouse (39:32.430)

I get click around.

Marty Humerickhouse (39:36.402)

Thank you. Thank you.

Doug Josh (39:51.390)

realized because I called I called you yesterday morning and I've realized the higher up you get into your career sometimes when you're calling your boss you're calling your colleagues like for us these days it's less of a technical question it's usually more of like a ethical question should we do this like we know the code well enough we know the function like the practical function of electricity to make it safe but like should I do this x y or z what would you do here right so it's like it's more of a like can I get your opinion on something

Marty Humerickhouse (39:51.924)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (40:08.893)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (40:19.102)

Doug Josh (40:21.350)

something versus like, hey, what happens when I touch these wires together? Yeah, that's like, I don't know. Why don't you think it's time to meet and we'll find out? Make sure you hit record first.

Marty Humerickhouse (40:22.623)

Yep.

Marty Humerickhouse (40:27.003)

Yeah, and that's totally, yeah. And that's totally, like, how it's evolved with me, Colin, Sean, which is great, you know, and that's where I want to be is, like, hey, me running these jobs and dealing with everything to where he doesn't even have to be involved, you know? You know, that's pretty much what I tell him all the time. I'm like, then I'm doing my job. You know?

Doug Josh (40:37.072)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (40:42.831)

Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (40:49.770)

It is, it's true. It's nice to have those conversations too because you're, you know, he trusts you and he knows that you understand. And so like, you know, for us out here in Maryland, it's like, I don't know what it's like in Cali, but a lot of the properties we come across are so old. They're just like so old. And there's lots of farm land out here. So there's lots of horse farms. And so like, we find our, like, the one Josh called me about this week, it was more just like this guy wants to do this thing. But this barn's so old.

Marty Humerickhouse (40:52.702)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (41:09.102)

Thank you. Bye.

Doug Josh (41:20.470)

the where's the new where does the new meet the old and how does it function and what's the best way to do it like sometimes those are just questions where you're like I'm not any good question anyone who's ever worked in a barn who's listening or I don't know if you Marty if you have if you've ever worked on a farm now we're not talking like a modern well-wired situation we're talking about a hundred plus years of like seven different people in there multiple jobs yeah multiple panels connected to multiple

Marty Humerickhouse (41:30.047)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (41:34.502)

Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (41:46.229)

Hmm

Marty Humerickhouse (41:48.802)

Doug Josh (41:49.770)

panels, no separated grounds and neutrals. You see some wild stuff. I saw one a couple weeks ago where a guy had a battery cable coming out of his subpanel with a clip on it, clip into a water pipe, and I was like, I don't even want to. You know? So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (42:04.990)

Oh.

Marty Humerickhouse (42:07.242)

We definitely run into a lot of handyman stuff, and we go into these remodels, and we always call it like, feeling back behind you, like how far do we wanna go? And I always have an issue because I'm like, I wanna gut it all. And I know that with Sean and Contractor-wise, that's not what they wanna hear. So it's kind of like trying to find that line of, okay, when do we stop with this? When is it safe?

Doug Josh (42:11.038)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (42:16.612)

That's right.

Doug Josh (42:22.450)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (42:27.850)

All right.

Doug Josh (42:32.470)

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good question, man. It's a hard one. It's tricky because like it's, it's such a personal preference thing. It's almost like community communication solves lots of problems, I think. And like having, and I'd like to get your insight to Josh, but like having, um, uh, I don't want to sit like strategies that you go through a thing, you know, um, policies where you're like, well, when we run into this situation, this is how we handle it. But even, even with those, there's always going to be

Marty Humerickhouse (42:38.492)

Yeah, you know.

Doug Josh (43:02.450)

something where you're like, yeah, what do we do here? How do we handle this? So the challenge right now is we're, at this point in Lumen Brothers, we're three years in, it's hard for us to think about things outside of being a business owner. Traditionally, when I worked for somebody else, I was, as I said before, I was the slow electrician, but I'm the same way, man. If I open up a, if I have to replace a switch and I get in there, and it's like, oh, these tails need to be redone. And then before long, I'm like, I just started redoing the whole thing. Well, as an employee, you're like,

Marty Humerickhouse (43:20.147)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (43:30.002)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (43:33.130)

And you're not too worried about like you mentioned Sean and like as a contractor It's like there's a different perspective there. So as an employee. I'm like look I'm a slow electrician and I'm thorough so it had to happen But now as a business owner, I'm like, oh, yeah We need a policy because like I know what I want to do and I know what I would have done But now it's like now I know I can see the dollar signs And you can't force a customer to spend their money, right? And so either you rebuild it for cheaper than you should because your OCD or like

Marty Humerickhouse (43:46.702)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (43:56.846)

Mm-hmm

Doug Josh (44:02.590)

like you're saying like it's communication. You go to the customer and you're like, hey, does this drive you crazy too? You want me to give this? And they're like, I don't care. I know. Make it safe. Yeah, right. So there is a balance there. Yeah. But I mean, in a lot of cases like that, especially old homes, you do run into situations where there's nothing else you can do. Like I give you an example. I had a client has this really, you know,

Marty Humerickhouse (44:03.802)

Thank you. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (44:07.002)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (44:09.202)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (44:12.694)

Um, um.

Marty Humerickhouse (44:24.566)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (44:32.450)

Somebody put a bathroom in between the living room. Maybe it existed in the original. But the switch was on the interior of the door to the bathroom, but it was behind where the door opened. So there was some, either the door used to swing the other way, whatever the case may be. Switch is on the wrong side. So they actually have to go in the bathroom, shut the door, turn the light on. And they didn't want to do it. So a simple solution, I just sold them on the idea of putting in a cassetta

Marty Humerickhouse (44:53.402)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (45:02.322)

with a little beagle. Yeah.

Doug Josh (45:02.490)

set it in an unreasonable location, right? Pretty simple, except when I took that switch out, this house was so old that the box that that switch was in was an old, tiny... Black gen box? It was, it was a tiny little black gen box with like these, the interior straps were so bulky. There just wasn't any room for anything. It was all so well built, they're crazy. So I had to remove it. I just couldn't fit a Lutron Cassetta switch

Marty Humerickhouse (45:25.562)

I'm sorry.

Doug Josh (45:32.670)

And so I just needed to redo it, but it's a 120 year old horsehair plaster and lath and as I tried to take that box out, it just crumbled the whole walk or so. So you find yourself in these situations where doing the job you were supposed to do, like you said, it's like peeling back the onion or we'll say, you know, give a mouse a cookie. It's like how far do you go? But at that point you stop and you go and you communicate and you say, here's what we're running into. I'll cut you a deal on this because this was unexpected. But like,

Marty Humerickhouse (45:45.364)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (46:02.630)

we've got to get a new box in here, right? Yep.

Marty Humerickhouse (46:06.162)

Yeah, and we're recently doing what I'm doing with the job right now. It's kind of like a multi-million dollar home or it was a complete remodel. They've pretty much gutted all the dry walls, so open walls. And we kind of, we took over it from another electrician and, you know, definitely not to talk bad about anything on him, but, um, you know, we, we couldn't stop showing up. So we're like, we got hired to kind of finish the remodel. So we start going in. And first thing I noticed is.

Doug Josh (46:18.211)

Wow, nice.

Doug Josh (46:32.350)

Roger.

Marty Humerickhouse (46:36.282)

panel in the closet. I'm like, okay, well, we can't do that. So, talk to them. I'm like, hey, we have to move this panel, which means all the branch circuits he ran, we have to rerun. And then I look at the feeder and it's like, I think it was aluminum number two, and we're supposed to have 100 amps. I'm like, okay, well, that's not rated. It's like, we have hot tub feed, you know, we're feeding a bunch of loads. Now we have to replace 110 foot sub feed with copper, you know, so that

Doug Josh (46:55.692)

Right.

Marty Humerickhouse (47:06.362)

three grand right there they probably lost so and it's Sucks, but it's like I know the code so I can make them. Yeah You know and we thought So we pretty much redone this entire house and you know it got to a plan where it's like we just We had to pull everything you know

Doug Josh (47:08.632)

Sure.

Doug Josh (47:13.410)

It is what it is. Yeah. It is what it is. Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (47:21.778)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (47:28.810)

Yeah, I mean, it goes like that sometimes.

Marty Humerickhouse (47:31.262)

Yeah, but it's cool too, because now I'm starting to get into some of these bigger homes. And like now we're doing Radio Raw in this home. Because then the, yeah, so in the kitchen they had seven switches. And I was like, that's insane. You know, I was like, that is so much. And so we were able to talk to the customer say, hey, we can do a keypad, you know, all this. So it's kind of cool to kind of step it up into that. But then now I had to learn everything about Radio Raw.

Doug Josh (47:38.394)

Oh, really? That's cool.

Doug Josh (47:42.750)

Okay.

Doug Josh (47:45.890)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (47:52.850)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (47:57.513)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (48:01.323)

you know, and had to go down that tunnel.

Doug Josh (48:03.495)

That's really cool. Did you guys did Sean go through the training? Have you guys done any of their like official leutron training?

Marty Humerickhouse (48:09.202)

So I've done the free one, but he's signing me up for the official. I think Sean has done it. Because yeah, we actually did another house with Radio Raw, and that's kind of before this one, so I learned a lot about that. But yeah, even so kind of going back with the journeyman too and like understanding like this customer wants to do a recess track system. And yesterday I probably spent two and a half hours.

Doug Josh (48:14.555)

Okay.

Doug Josh (48:23.257)

awesome.

Marty Humerickhouse (48:39.242)

down the rabbit hole learning about tracks. You know, at my house, you know, I mean, I wasn't getting paid, but I'm gonna learn everything there is about tracks now, you know.

Doug Josh (48:43.230)

Yeah. Right.

Doug Josh (48:48.530)

Yeah, right. That's right. Yeah, but I mean, that's, that's the beauty of any trade is that you get to learn when you are, when you are given a task or you're given a directive, it's like, well, I, I don't know how to do that. Well, figure it out. Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know how electricity works? Don't you know how to read the code book? Well, you figure it out. Yeah, it's wonderful. That's one of the, one of the guys that I worked for once told me, because I was, I was kind of like, oh, yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (49:00.484)

Mm-hmm

Marty Humerickhouse (49:06.077)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (49:12.402)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (49:18.950)

I'll figure that out. Let me research it tonight. And he's like, don't ever forget something. He's like, you're working for me right now, but the reality is you're always working for yourself. Because everything you learn in your spare time, everything you learn on the job site, you're getting paid to learn it, but also it's like that's something you carry with you. So if you start your own thing down the road, or if you take over for Sean, or hostile takeover, it's like the fact is that's all stuff that you've gained up here that's going with you.

Marty Humerickhouse (49:28.291)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (49:37.509)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (49:40.202)

Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (49:42.902)

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Doug Josh (49:48.450)

Right. And so it's like, and I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I

Marty Humerickhouse (49:49.402)

Yeah, and it's something down the line if a customer is interested. It's like, oh, I know everything about this. You know, I know what brands, I know what trackheads, you know, and like how to wire it and, you know, costs. Yeah. Well, because they were almost about to order these tracks and they're supposed to be recessed, kind of like a remodel version of it. But where you actually made the connection. The box.

Doug Josh (49:56.791)

That's right.

Doug Josh (50:02.975)

Yeah. How not to wire it? Ha ha ha.

Marty Humerickhouse (50:18.702)

would be up in the ceiling and where we're installing it is on the first story. And the node small, it says this box has to be readily accessible. You know, it has to be access from the attic. I'm like, okay, so we can't access this from the first story. I was like, so I actually had to, I called the company, talked to somebody and they're like, yeah, this is more for a track or for a drop ceiling. So then save the customers probably,

Doug Josh (50:35.434)

Right.

Doug Josh (50:43.850)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (50:49.182)

10 grand or however much just because this product wouldn't work. I mean, we could have made it work, but not what it was intended for.

Doug Josh (50:51.957)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (50:55.170)

Yep.

Doug Josh (51:00.790)

Right. Yeah. But that's a great thing that you have there to be to spot that issue and point it out and swap it out. I think when I was younger, I was so gung-ho about pleasing, you know, the foreman's or the general contractors or the homeowners that I would have put every effort into making a certain product work rather than having the confidence to say, Hey, maybe we should get a different product. You know, maybe or maybe like reach out to the company and be like, do you guys have something that's more applicable for a first floor with a finished ceiling? You know, it's like,

Marty Humerickhouse (51:22.606)

Mm-hmm

Marty Humerickhouse (51:26.423)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (51:31.350)

That's a cool spot to be at where you feel comfortable. Totally. Well, they appreciate it too, I think, if you bring that to a client. And that's your expertise. That's why they hired you, so that you can bring that up. Because they don't know. They don't know what readily accessible even means, or why it's important. A lot of electricians don't. I know. Elections.

Marty Humerickhouse (51:31.482)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (51:40.564)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (51:44.644)

map.

Marty Humerickhouse (51:52.164)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I was talking to the company and they're like, oh yeah, if you did that, you'd have to drop the entire track down to access. I'm like, well, that's, that's not right. No. So, finding those answers.

Doug Josh (51:59.750)

That's not gonna work. Man. I'm not gonna do that. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna

Doug Josh (52:04.150)

And you know, there's, yeah, there's lots of products too, man. There's just so many products. That's, yeah. I mean, you can make a, I think, Corey from Lighthouse had a post this week where it was like, everything we're talking about where it was like, the thoughts in your mind is a contractor. Like, what did Day is like as an electrical contractor? What's like, did I order that material? Did I, how are we covering for this guy? Did we pull those permits? Like, that's your mind now, where, you know, it was, it was just filling it full of like,

Marty Humerickhouse (52:08.423)

Yeah, so much.

Marty Humerickhouse (52:31.297)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (52:34.090)

this electrical work and now you're in this process of like how do I take what I've learned communicate it share it catch the mistakes help people understand show them the right product it's it it just keeps growing and it's it's cool there's always something to learn

Marty Humerickhouse (52:46.702)

Yeah. And especially, I think being able to work with other trades too and seeing the upcoming steps that they're working on, like, especially with these mason, those working with, I mean, okay, I need these, like, 44 of this concrete, I need this pipe right in the middle, you know, our cap is going on right there and not being afraid to tell other trades that you need stuff done. Yeah. I mean, I had this whole job today turned around because I'm like, hey, I need this.

Doug Josh (53:09.750)

what you need. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep.

Marty Humerickhouse (53:16.602)

I have inspection tomorrow, like these blocks are supposed to be up, you know? So, I mean, I... I'm not sure if you can see it, but I'm not sure. I'm just going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you. I'm going to go ahead and show you.

Doug Josh (53:20.950)

Yeah, yeah, it is what it is. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All good stuff though. I mean, because like those, those skills are so transferable, like being able to communicate what you understand in a, in a way that other people can digest, feel, feel comfortable. Like that's, that's the, some of the most transferable skills you'll get. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (53:25.444)

So.

Marty Humerickhouse (53:40.562)

Yeah. So, especially with this job, you know, there's a lot of like emails and phone calls and, you know, the contractor wants kind of daily updates, you know, which is kind of totally new for me when before it was like, oh, get the job done. Like, oh, this is what I have to do, you know. So, which is good, you know, even though it could be a headache. It's good because I'm learning that process of tracking. And

Doug Josh (53:57.694)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (54:00.714)

Yep.

Doug Josh (54:08.950)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (54:10.523)

knowing stuff, you know.

Doug Josh (54:11.910)

Yeah, it's important stuff. And it's also important, like even if you don't go out on your own, say ever, ever, and you just work for somebody, you, it's, it's important for you to know those things too, because number one, you can understand and appreciate where the management's coming from. If you, if you're working with a team that you appreciate the management, uh, sometimes you can understand that stuff and the management still sucks. But, uh, but it's, I think it's imperative, like the, that you learn that stuff as you go to, because you just understand it better. You understand more, like you, you can make educated decisions on, on the fly.

Marty Humerickhouse (54:31.422)

Ha ha.

Doug Josh (54:41.870)

Okay, just because you've done it, you've been through it. Man, man. And you'll see, it's a lot like with kids, it's like in the apprentice, you were once there and you didn't necessarily know how much went into it. And now you're in a position where you're doing it and they don't know exactly what you're going through. And they're like, oh man, he spends most of his time out at the van on the phone. And it's like, yeah. Yeah, it's like, oh, he never does any actual work. I pull all the wires, you know.

Marty Humerickhouse (54:45.347)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (55:01.102)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (55:04.382)

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly how I look sometimes. I'm just...

Marty Humerickhouse (55:10.802)

walking out there, walking in circles, smoking a cigarette, and I'm like looking at my phone, and it's like, you know.

Doug Josh (55:17.853)

Uh-huh. Yeah, man, he gets his journeymans and now all he does is just like, you know, hanging out, hanging out, making facebook posts. Talking to moderate electrician.

Marty Humerickhouse (55:23.402)

Yeah. Oh, I know. I, well, that's like, you know, I haven't even done any Instagram stuff or any of that stuff really lately, because it's like, okay, I'm taking a break. I have so much stuff going on. I need to focus on other things for now, you know, and still trying to balance that life to, you know, between the family and work. And, you know, like, yesterday, I had to put my phone down, even after doing the track, going down that route.

Doug Josh (55:38.150)

Totally.

Doug Josh (55:40.370)

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

Doug Josh (55:47.592)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (55:53.322)

I have a whole mic, okay, I'm done. I need to stop, you know.

Doug Josh (55:55.490)

Yeah. Yeah. It's good to know that stuff. It's, and I think that's part of the practice too is like, I'm still in that phase where, um, like I need, I need things. I need tasks where I feel anxious, right? I mean, I know that's something I should probably dig into and solve. But for now, I'm just going to use it to get lots of stuff done. And, uh, so I find like I have to, I have to really parcel my day up, like especially if, if I have a day where we're working long, I don't have to worry about it.

Marty Humerickhouse (55:59.002)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (56:13.907)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (56:25.470)

I have a day that's in pieces. I've got to be regimented. I've got to have like, if I sit down on my computer, I've got to give myself an hour. Like at this time, that's it. Now I got to go do the next thing. There's a lot to do. I have a pretty strong policy about taking a lunch. I never used to and now I do it for my mental health. And Doug is always a good sport. He'll sit down with me. He's like, yeah, yeah, we should take lunch. We should take lunch. And I'm like, I'm sitting there eating my food and I look over and he's on his phone. I'm like, you writing emails? He's like, yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (56:29.985)

Thank you. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (56:34.502)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (56:53.102)

Doug Josh (56:55.570)

I am.

Marty Humerickhouse (56:56.846)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (57:00.002)

I still have that habit too, because I used to do cable contracting where she got paid by job. So if you took a lunch, you're losing money. So even now when I go take lunch, I get food. I'm like, just eat really quick. And I'm like running around. I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go.

Doug Josh (57:06.878)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (57:10.114)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (57:18.250)

Uh-huh. I usually just put stuff. I have like my lunch fits in my pocket. I'll have like a beef stick. He has one of those harmonica stands that he just puts a granola bar in as he goes. No, man, I just, I, I reached a point where I was, when I was working for other people, I was just pushing too hard. Um, and I just reached a breaking point and it's like, I found that rather than sprinting.

Marty Humerickhouse (57:25.965)

Thank you. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (57:29.324)

Bye. Bye.

Doug Josh (57:48.830)

and having to take a gigantic rest, I would rather take periodic small rests and know that I can just keep going long term. And it's like that 25 minute or 30 minute break, if that's what it takes for me to like mentally just not do any work, I watch a YouTube video about Jeeps or something, or probably Wood Stoves these days. Wood Stoves. And it's like, I have to switch off for that little bit of time. And then it's like, you know, you watch like, any of the Hispanic cultures

Marty Humerickhouse (58:08.186)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (58:18.330)

hour long break. That's that's a cultural way of resetting so they can have a longer work day and they do it happy. They're always happy. They're always talking to each other and laughing and working and working long hours. Yeah, if you're working a long day, you need a long break. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Firm lunch policy. Well, you've been bringing in Josh's so Josh is like main focus these days is he's going to get he wants to get the microwave.

Marty Humerickhouse (58:26.086)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (58:35.105)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (58:41.956)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (58:48.250)

obsessed with a microwave right now. He wants to have it in the van. So he bought an inverter. You have one in your van? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Marty Humerickhouse (58:51.662)

I have one. Well, I have it, I have to take it on the job site, but not...

Doug Josh (58:58.150)

That's where a lot of electricians are. But I got an inverter that's hooking up into the van. The microwave is going to live right above it, because I'm not always on a job site where I can bust out the microwave. I'll be at a client's house. Yeah, that's true. And I'm out front plugging the microwave into their GFI. And they're like, and then they already see that thing where they're like, you can come eat inside. And it's like, that's really nice of you. But I don't want to. And it's like, you try and tell them nicely. I've ultimately, I've ended with, well, my van is kind of like my little,

Marty Humerickhouse (59:06.207)

night.

Marty Humerickhouse (59:20.033)

No.

Doug Josh (59:27.250)

private space is where I take my time. That's where I poop. That's where I do a lot of things you don't want to hear about. But it's like having a microwave in there would solve that problem. If I'm between jobs, you know, I could pull over in a park or something, microwave my soup, because I've also been eating a lot of fresh food recently. Like soups and stuff I've been making. They're not good cold. Yeah, soup. Yeah, I mean, unless it's gazpacho or something, you know.

Marty Humerickhouse (59:30.496)

Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (59:51.842)

And I was doing well at bringing lunch and stuff, but lately I've been kind of going out a little bit more. So, but I mean, we have this whole budget, you know, with the family which has been working out. So, I'm like, oh, I could actually go get lunch today. But yeah, not that we weren't able before, but, you know.

Doug Josh (01:00:04.950)

Good.

Doug Josh (01:00:07.690)

Oh nice man, awesome.

Doug Josh (01:00:13.570)

Sure, no, we're both married guys. Budgeting is a smart move, man. It's like, yeah, when you're young and you get your first, you know, bit of money in your account, you're like, I got all this money. It's the same way when you like start a company and you're like, we made all this money. It's like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It doesn't really work that way. You gotta put it away. You gotta squirrel it. Be smart. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:00:17.843)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:00:29.729)

No, you don't know.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:00:32.402)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:00:37.522)

Yeah, that's what we've been doing. I mean, that's what's been crazy. We're trying to like move and like all these things. That's why I've been kind of also working extra days because trying to pay off all like the credit cards before we move to a bigger house and stuff. So yeah. Oh shoot. Yeah, that's how it is. And like, well, that's the crazy thing is like, man, I'm not even close being done. Like, even though the stress, you know, sometimes,

Doug Josh (01:00:45.471)

Good.

Doug Josh (01:00:49.370)

Nice. Right on. That's great, man.

Doug Josh (01:00:54.650)

making some big moves so you become a journeyman and then all of a sudden you just start making moves man

Marty Humerickhouse (01:01:07.402)

gets a little crazy or you're trying to run all this. At the end of the day, I'm like, oh man, I love it. You know, like, like.

Doug Josh (01:01:13.730)

Yeah, yeah, I do too. It's it's yeah, it's wonderful. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's a great thing the electrical trade

Marty Humerickhouse (01:01:22.142)

Yeah, not trying to get burnt out. You know, that's a tough thing too. And...

Doug Josh (01:01:26.235)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:01:29.190)

What do you do to help? Like how do you, how do you stave off burnout?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:01:32.042)

So, so the crazy thing is, so what I need to take a break, but like, if the kids are gone and Sarah's gone, I've realized that I do not like being by myself. It drives me nuts. You know, you know, sometimes there's those moments where you're like, Oh, I need some time alone or, you know, when everyone's gone or I guess,

Doug Josh (01:01:45.750)

Okay.

Doug Josh (01:01:50.931)

every day all the time

Marty Humerickhouse (01:01:56.162)

I need something to do, I need something to learn. You know, something I've found out is my hobby is learning. So, yeah. So if I'm at home and I'm not learning anything, I'm like, what am I even doing? Like, am I as well work? You know? So. So,

Doug Josh (01:01:59.000)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:02:03.310)

Okay, that's awesome. It's a great hobby.

Doug Josh (01:02:11.310)

All right, what's? Uh-huh. Yeah. What do you do? Are you reading anything right now? Are you a reader? Do you like to thumb through books?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:02:20.102)

And so mostly right now it's been all electrical. You know, I've been learning, what is it, like RGB ICs and doing like WLED and kind of where each diode is individually controlled. I don't know how I would apply it to the electrical work we do, but I think it's cool. I'm like, oh, maybe like a bar or something. And then the radio raw stuff. So yeah.

Doug Josh (01:02:38.250)

Thank you for watching.

Doug Josh (01:02:43.050)

That is cool.

Doug Josh (01:02:45.735)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:02:50.162)

trying to find my new obsession lately. I'm like, I need something new.

Doug Josh (01:02:52.450)

Cool.

Doug Josh (01:02:54.670)

Yeah, or you should, or not you should, but books on management, communication, ways to like be good at selling things or saying, you know, Chris, who's your guy? Chris Voss? Chris Voss. Never split the differences. Yeah, there's like, there's always some element of what we're, what we do where you can like. Cross train. Cross train. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:03:08.104)

Christmas.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:03:16.282)

Yeah, yeah, and it's crazy, man. It's crazy, kind of, you know, and I only have one apprentice. I don't know how people like, they have 10 people, or, you know, 50 people running under them. Like, how they do that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Doug Josh (01:03:21.850)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:03:28.450)

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Not well. Not well. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Marty Humerickhouse (01:03:36.483)

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that's kind of what I hear about some, some crews around, you know, here with the bigger companies is, you know, a lot of stuff gets messed up or, you know, so I could see that. And I think that's what's nice about running a small crew. It's like, especially just having my one apprentice and like, cool, not like I'm getting thrown out to 10 guys, because that would just be crazy

Doug Josh (01:03:52.071)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:04:00.913)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:04:04.310)

The larger the company, man, those large companies have whole crews that go back to fix stuff. Like, you know, so we've got a friend who's in a solar company and they have crews who they just go around doing, you know, like, the last 5% of details and all the jobs that got missed. So it's like, yeah, the larger management gets the bigger, the little drips and things that get through the cracks.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:04:10.265)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:04:34.330)

get. Yeah. You know, it's like, there's, there's trade off to everything. But yeah, man, it's like, when you manage that much stuff, you're gonna miss stuff. I mean, you're gonna miss stuff managing one person. So it's like, that just multiple. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:04:35.184)

Mm-hmm

Marty Humerickhouse (01:04:46.202)

I mean, totally happened. And I think that's kind of where Sean is too, is we don't want it, or he doesn't, you know, grow too quickly to where our quality goes down, you know, because I, it's probably going to sound conceited, but after seeing other people's work and stuff, and seeing, like, thinking about my work, I'm like, man, I'm actually a good electrician. I'm like, wow, you know, like, and I

Doug Josh (01:04:59.170)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:05:16.222)

been, yeah, yeah, and it's a thought I've been having for the past three weeks, and I'm like, man, I know it sounds conceited, or like I'll talk to Sean. He's like, no, because you are, you know.

Doug Josh (01:05:16.560)

Well, you care. That's the biggest difference.

Doug Josh (01:05:30.071)

and you care. You care to do it right. You want it to be right. And that's all it takes to be a good electrician. That's the bar. The bar, you know, with we talk about it a lot, but like the bar with our trade is low, not necessarily in the skill set, but in the fact that people don't care to the right level. Like even the fact that you're going home and studying on your own time, like, can't teach that. You can't teach that. No. And it's like, so like, if or if your apprentice

Marty Humerickhouse (01:05:34.324)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:05:48.586)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:05:55.627)

No.

Doug Josh (01:05:57.710)

questions. When you get an apprentice that doesn't have any questions, that means they're just showing up. And so it's like that. But I think it's a small percentage of people that really do care to that level and that's huge.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:06:11.202)

And that's something I've told Kim before. I'm like, hey, don't be afraid to ask me questions. And I think from him going from a company that didn't want you to ask questions. And he's like, oh, I feel like I'm asking too much. I'm like, yeah, I'd rather you ask me 1,000 questions and try to stump me. Like, um.

Doug Josh (01:06:21.391)

That's right.

Doug Josh (01:06:31.790)

Yeah. Well, if he doesn't ask you, you're going to have to ask him questions. You're going to have to say, why'd you do it that way? Why didn't you come to me before you did that? You know, what were you thinking? Those types of questions. You made me do this, Jimmy. Right.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:06:44.163)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:06:48.602)

Well, and also taking ownership too, because I've talked to him about this look, is that if something goes wrong or something fails, it's not your fault. That's my fault. Because I didn't check it, or I didn't give clear instructions, you know, and kind of taken that ownership too of like, okay, well, he did this, but I didn't tell him like clear instructions on this. Or, you know, going back to, hey, next time.

Doug Josh (01:06:59.594)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:07:07.850)

Marty Humerickhouse (01:07:17.302)

let's do it this way and this is why. And it's crazy because actually my daughter, my stepdaughter, she's 10, spring break right now. And so she's actually been working the front desk at Sarah's work. So it was her first like eight hour shift, which was a lot for a kid. Yeah. And she did great. I think she worked three days,

Doug Josh (01:07:30.392)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:07:33.270)

All right. All right.

Doug Josh (01:07:39.832)

That is.

Doug Josh (01:07:46.610)

Wow. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:07:49.503)

So I was actually talking to her this morning, I'm like, hey, you know, I'm proud of you. Like working like an eight hour day is tough. And to really reinforce that because like to her to understand that doing hard work is something we proud of, you know, and then I talked to her and said, look, like you don't do something like chores or work because you have to, you do it because you want to be

Doug Josh (01:08:07.250)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:08:17.382)

out of what you do. You know.

Doug Josh (01:08:18.972)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:08:22.151)

Yeah, you want your house to look good and be clean, and you want your work to be the same. It reflects you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:08:28.186)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:08:31.642)

Yeah, exactly. I get so like, I don't know, like ADD about like my wires and them being nice and flat. And like, I think I did post the other day where it's like all my white wires, you know, in one section and all my yellows in another section. And

Doug Josh (01:08:32.150)

Doug Josh (01:08:43.392)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:08:49.050)

Thank you. Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:08:51.650)

Yeah man, that's the fun of it is like you get to be an artist to a certain extent and you know if you can, if you have the time and if you, you know, the situation is right, you can really make something look very pretty. I'm always, yeah, I think that's always the goal. You said, so California doesn't have a master's license, is that right?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:09:05.143)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:09:12.042)

So the highest test we could take is the general journeyman. So there's a general electrician. So there's a residential electrician. And then, so that's what I would think would be like the first step of like the journeyman and then the general electrician. So that's the test I took, which there was zero residential in it. It was all about fire alarms and everything, you know, more towards the back of the book.

Doug Josh (01:09:36.700)

done.

Doug Josh (01:09:40.371)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:09:41.802)

book.

Doug Josh (01:09:43.730)

And so is there a certain amount of time you have to be in the field, like, or is either one the same or how's it work?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:09:49.522)

So it's four years for the journey, or for the general. And I think for the residential, you could do it in two years. Yeah, so a certain amount of hours, of course, for both. But yeah, the general, I don't know, man. People always ask, like, I've ran into other electricians and they're like, how hard was the test? I'm like, it's actually easy. I was like, but studying for it was hard.

Doug Josh (01:09:53.250)

Thank you. Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:09:58.034)

Okay.

Doug Josh (01:10:18.070)

Yeah, it's a good way to put it. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:10:19.582)

Yeah. Good.

Doug Josh (01:10:21.550)

It just depends. Luck of the draw too. I mean, with our master's exam, the first time I took it, I got a lot of like storefront commercial calculation, like things that I just wasn't as keen on. And I failed it the first time through. And then I really beefed up on that stuff. And I came back like, all right, give me some storefronts. And it was like mostly rather natural. Which I was fine at. So you just never know what you're going to get. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:10:31.402)

Mm-hmm.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:10:41.383)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:10:45.783)

Yeah, yeah, mine was, there was a little bit of calculation, but it wasn't really anything. You know, it was like one, one, like, topic, like, what is, you know, this type rated at this. And I was like, oh, okay, like I was expecting load calcs and everything else.

Doug Josh (01:10:51.592)

Okay.

Doug Josh (01:11:06.671)

Yeah, yeah Interesting what California you guys in

Marty Humerickhouse (01:11:09.202)

But it's crazy. San Luis Visto, kind of like Central California. Yeah, it's crazy though, how many people don't have the license? Cause I could look it up by zip code. And I was like, so in my area in San Luis Visto, there are 10 general electricians. And so,

Doug Josh (01:11:16.810)

Okay, awesome.

Doug Josh (01:11:25.764)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:11:34.290)

That's it. Really?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:11:35.662)

Yeah, so in the next zip code, I think it was like maybe five or eight.

Doug Josh (01:11:40.070)

of which, so of the 10 you and Sean are two. Wow. So unity, okay. Okay. Okay.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:11:44.189)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:11:46.682)

I think he's in a different zip code. So I think in slow, there's two zip codes. So in general, there's maybe like 15 general electricians in San Luis Pismo. And I was just like, damn, that is crazy. So I think he's in a different zip code.

Doug Josh (01:11:52.550)

Okay.

Doug Josh (01:11:57.950)

Isn't that wild?

Doug Josh (01:12:02.990)

We just went to a class, a 2023 code update class, and there were like 75 master electricians in there. And most of them were 75 years old. We were definitely the youngest guys in the room.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:12:10.922)

Wow, I know. I want to get the new, the mic hold update, you know, because I did pretty, you know, I liked his course. So yeah, I definitely had to freshen up on the new code. I... I'm sorry.

Doug Josh (01:12:18.692)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:12:22.220)

Yeah

Doug Josh (01:12:27.732)

That's what this guy uses. We go to a local guy named Marty Schumacher, but he uses Mike Holtz material. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:12:34.582)

Yeah. Yeah, it was good. The first round when I first watched the DVD, I was like, man, this is just a lot of talking, you know, I'm like, what are they even talking about? And then I went through it again. I was like, oh, okay, I know some use codes. Now, by the third time I was like, oh, wow, this is why they're talking about it, you know, it's not Yeah, not just here's the code because I did that as our local college or community college and as a code course.

Doug Josh (01:12:41.776)

Yep.

Doug Josh (01:12:47.897)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:12:53.150)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:13:04.502)

Really all the guy did was read from the book. And I was just like, like he wouldn't explain anything. No. Yeah, I was just like, I think I stopped like halfway through because like I'm not, yeah.

Doug Josh (01:13:09.090)

That would piss me off.

Doug Josh (01:13:14.171)

answered.

Doug Josh (01:13:16.838)

That's too bad.

Doug Josh (01:13:19.371)

I would.

Doug Josh (01:13:21.610)

I had a college course where I walked, I just two classes in or so. The first class I came, it was like some sort of world culture, it was back in college. Teacher came in day one and she just, we already had a, I had the, what do they call it when you get the thing for the, curriculum? The curriculum for the, what do they call it? Anyway. I didn't go to college. Anyway. Don't ask me. So I knew what to read, so I read. You know, was this is what we're gonna go over chapter one. So I read chapter one, I came into the first class and she comes in.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:13:30.263)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:13:40.346)

Uh-huh.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:13:43.443)

Ha ha ha!

Doug Josh (01:13:51.710)

late and this is the instructor, the professor, she puts the book down and just puts her face in it and starts reading it. And I was looking around the room like, is this for real? And then I told my, I sat through the class. That's what she did the whole class. And I told her, I said, to myself, it happens again, I'm out. And I walked right out of that class the second time. Because it's like, what did we do? What did we do? Well, then why, if that's the case, why do we have mandatory? Why mandatory? Yeah, why mandatory? Just let me pass the class the test then, then

Marty Humerickhouse (01:13:57.783)

No.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:14:10.722)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:14:21.590)

reading the book. I don't need you. Mike Rowe talked about that when when COVID first hit and all these like college courses like Harvard and stuff they sent people home and they were all learning virtually but they didn't get any money back and he's like so what you're suggesting is that there's no value to coming and interacting with you know on campus with the teachers with your you know fellow students. It's like so why are you why are you paying that

Doug Josh (01:14:51.650)

you offering? You know that's different from just reading the book. Doug can just read the book. I will too, especially Harvard books. It's all I read at Harvard books.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:14:53.064)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:15:02.143)

It drove me crazy. Especially when it got to motors, I think it was around then. I was like, I can't, I can't, I can't do it.

Doug Josh (01:15:10.590)

Yeah, I mean if he's not like extrapolating and helping you understand what the hell, what's the point, what that's what your point is an instructor. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:15:17.922)

Yeah. So, you know, it's kind of a good point with a journeyman and apprentice, you know, as we're going in the van and he's like, oh, what are we doing? Or what's going on? Or ask me a question like, let's open the code book. You know, so I have the mic hold with pictures and everything. And I have our, you know, our new book. So I'm like, okay, look at the mic hold, you know, try to find the answer. Or I'll tell him, okay, look up the regular book.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:15:48.182)

Let's open up the mic hole so you can kind of see examples. So I tried to stay on top of that too, having him look up codes, you know? Like we had an inspector recently where we had, excuse me, a GFCI behind a range and behind a refrigerator. So we put it there because it was within six feet of a sink basin. So he had,

Doug Josh (01:15:57.831)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:16:15.250)

Mm-hmm, but it's not accessible.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:16:18.422)

Yeah, so it's not readily accessible. So, you know, Kevin's asked me, well, like why, I'm like, well, let's look it up. Let's look up the definition of what readily accessible is, you know? So, I was like, sometimes two codes are gonna conflict with each other, and it's up to the HJ to decide what they wanna implement. You know? I'm like, I guarantee you if we didn't put GFCIs and you probably would have looked at me like, oh, this has to have GFCIs. You know?

Doug Josh (01:16:30.450)

Thank you. Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:16:47.614)

Right.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:16:47.962)

those, but having them look that up and open up the code book.

Doug Josh (01:16:51.970)

Sure. And you can always protect at the breaker for the circuit. Yeah. Which is readily accessible.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:16:55.902)

Yeah. Well, yeah. Which we would have done that, but we were kind of like maxed out on our breaker space and customer, customer didn't want to like, you know, or the contractor didn't want to upgrade the panel. So we were like, all right.

Doug Josh (01:17:06.112)

We're on drugs, so. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:17:14.890)

Yeah. Yeah. That's always a hard thing to do. Yeah. I mean, doing that, having somebody look something up is so valuable. Yeah. You know, we talk about it all the time, but the one I like to do is when you have somebody who knows a rule, it's like, well, find it in the code book. Prove it. Show me. Yeah. You'll be surprised by what you're reading there. All of the most stuff I've learned in the code book is when I'm flipping through looking for something else in the code book. And you're like, oh, well, I didn't know you could do that. Or there it is. I remember hearing about this. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:17:16.802)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:17:21.586)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:17:34.034)

That's one of my favorite things.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:17:41.307)

that note.

Doug Josh (01:17:44.958)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:17:44.962)

Yeah, and there's been plenty of those too. Like, especially once people find out that I have my journeyman license, they like, as a contractor, they're like, oh, can you do this? Yeah, what is the code on this? And like, they try to test you some and I'm like, OK, well, this is what this is. And if I don't know the answer, I could go look it up, you know.

Doug Josh (01:17:52.372)

Ha.

Doug Josh (01:17:54.739)

Move it.

Doug Josh (01:17:57.950)

Thank you. Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:18:03.494)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:18:05.630)

Yeah. Yeah, it's really all about navigating the book. You know, there are parts of it that are like really important. Like the way that the way the code books broken up, Josh helped me understand that kind of how they originally broke it up. And then there's little parts like little little rules that you don't realize like in the motor. I think it's the motor chapter. Every single article is designed. I might be wrong about this, but I think I remember it right. Every article is designed to be independent of the other articles. It's like they it's something like that. I can't remember

Marty Humerickhouse (01:18:10.002)

Doug Josh (01:18:35.770)

But there's all these little tricks inside the book that if you don't go through, yeah, it's hard to read it. It's hard to know what they're trying to say. That's why it's really... We take the continuing educational courses because we have to for Upkeep of our Masters every two years, but it's really helpful to do the code update ones because you learn more than just the individual codes they updated. Yeah. You'll learn... So I did one from 2014 to 2017.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:18:39.684)

under this

Doug Josh (01:19:06.330)

they actually restructured the book to be more intuitive, but it's kind of changed how things were always set up previous to that. And just reading my my whole book, I didn't pick up on that. I'm sure it was in there, but I didn't catch it. So it wasn't until I went and sat with an instructor that he explained that because he felt like it was really important information. So it's like with 23, they kind of did that a little bit too. They took all the definitions out of the individual code areas

Marty Humerickhouse (01:19:14.265)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (01:19:35.870)

all under definitions. All 100. Which sounds good on the surface, but I think it's a really bad idea. It's not cool. I like being, no more dot two, no more dot two definitions. So now instead of being like, if you're in a section where those definitions are really relevant, now you have to go all the way back to definitions to find it. And you have to know exactly what the word might be that you're trying to define or how they might, you know, it's, I think it was a bad move in my opinion. Yeah, Marty was saying,

Marty Humerickhouse (01:19:43.502)

and have them in the individual section.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:19:55.872)

Uh...

Marty Humerickhouse (01:20:00.902)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:20:05.570)

felt like it was really, it was done really to help the code making panel unless the electricians. So yeah, I liked having your, your intersection just like, because everything in the code book is like, you, you can read an article and be like, Oh, that's the rule. But what section is that article in? It is a rule and it is saying something, but you're talking about this and not that. And so like when definition, I felt like the definitions being on the dot two of every chapter was like, that's, this is, these are the

Marty Humerickhouse (01:20:11.465)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:20:24.630)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:20:35.931)

of this section. This is what we need to know for this. That made more sense to me. But whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:20:37.868)

Now.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:20:40.662)

That's like, yeah, rules, superseding rules is what I was telling Kevin. Like, he's like, okay, in a garage or what about, you know, a car charger? I'm like, okay, where you not going to look under TFC? You're going to go to that particular article talking about that item and then see if there's something in there, you know, or it might be both. It might be both areas that you're going to have to check, you know.

Doug Josh (01:20:46.914)

in.

Doug Josh (01:21:06.690)

Yep. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. But the longer you do it and the more you go through it and the more you sit back in classes, the more it sinks in and before, before too long, I remember the code just seeming like this, um, insurmountable thing that I couldn't understand when I was first starting. I really wanted to, but I was nervous about it. I was scared of it. I was like, I don't know how to read it. I don't know. I feel stupid every time I pick it up because I have no idea what this thing is. And, um, you know, Josh taught me something before my journeyman's exam that,

Marty Humerickhouse (01:21:13.302)

Marty Humerickhouse (01:21:26.843)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:21:29.402)

Doug Josh (01:21:36.710)

that kind of changed the whole book for me was the index and just utilize, cause I had it all tapped out. Then I'm like trying to memorize the order of the chapters and using the tabs. And he was like, whatever you're looking for, your index is your starting point. You find it in your index and you go from there. Now it may be like you were saying Marty in different sections of the book for different things, but your index is the starting, and that helped me make sense of the whole book for sure. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:21:41.874)

Mm-mm.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:21:53.302)

Yep.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:22:01.146)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:22:03.602)

Yeah, what is your keyword? What are you really trying to work and identify? Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:22:07.751)

And what sections, yeah, what section you're looking for? And because you can go to that word and it'll have all of the locations where it's listed. So that's when it comes in handy knowing how that book's laid out. Because if you're looking for something and you know, you know, you're looking for it. And knowing that the restructuring they did in 2017, from that cycle forward, the chapters one through three are like the rules, right?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:22:20.534)

Well, I especially...

Marty Humerickhouse (01:22:25.244)

Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:22:35.366)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:22:35.850)

but then four through seven modify those. So anything that happens in those latter chapters is what is is what takes precedent over anything in Article 310. Old Testament, New Testament. Basically, basically. Yeah. So it's like all the old stuff still counts. Yeah. All the old stuff still counts. But Jesus. Yeah. Follow the rules, but Jesus. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:22:39.587)

Yep.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:22:51.002)

Yeah, that's pretty fun. Yeah, that's a good way to think about it. You know, I mean like hey Yeah

Doug Josh (01:23:05.770)

Right. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:23:07.843)

So yeah, it's being a journeyman. And the one thing is, when I tried to explain him to you, is like, you create so many opportunities if you get your license. Because not a lot of people out here have it. I mean, obviously, by the area, I could probably go anywhere and get a job in California because I have my license.

Doug Josh (01:23:08.550)

Thank you. Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:23:19.133)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:23:22.194)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:23:30.230)

Not even probably big time. You can go anywhere in the country, dude. Big time. I mean, your license in California helps you. Yeah. But even if it's not transferable to another state or city, the fact that you have it somewhere else, that has so much power. And you've passed the test so you know that you could go anywhere, retake that test and pass it. So it's like, I don't understand it. I mean, that's look, I'm me. People are them. I don't get it. But if you're going to do something, I don't understand the whole not doing

Marty Humerickhouse (01:23:34.002)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:23:42.324)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:24:00.190)

license thing. It's just like, even if you don't do your own thing, it's like, why would you not? It would be like, I don't add so many analogies that pop into my head of like, I don't get it. I don't know. Yeah. But it's the most common practice.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:24:11.340)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:24:13.742)

ran into some other electricians and stuff, kind of just supply house and we'll talk about license. No, I'm not gonna get it. I'm like, okay, and then I hear I'm talking, okay, we're gonna do this and do that. I'm like, well, that's not code. My mind, I'm like, that's not right. I'm like, okay.

Doug Josh (01:24:32.451)

Yeah, I've heard people say too, like, well, I don't need it. I'm doing this like, I mean, yeah, you do. I, you know, not for the situation you might be in at the moment. It's probably not completely necessary for that situation. But that doesn't mean you don't putting yourself through the rigors of getting it is what makes is what teaches you. You learn those things. You're like, I didn't know. I've learned so much doing that.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:24:33.602)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:24:48.802)

Marty Humerickhouse (01:24:52.402)

See you in the next video.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:24:55.542)

Yeah, I feel like the code book to me kind of was like a light bulb that just came on one day because I had read the book so many times and went through everything and started doing the Michael, you know, and I was like understanding it and I don't know if there's a certain time when I was studying, like everything just clicked. And I was like, wow, it all makes sense. I know how this book works, like how it's divided into. Oh, like when they write the articles, like, okay, locations.

Doug Josh (01:25:14.672)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:25:17.314)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:25:19.450)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:25:25.622)

or accessibility, and then, you know, but also being able to apply it out in the field. And it was crazy. Like, I think when I first got my license, I think we talked about this. Like, I felt like I was still an apprentice, you know, and I think the amount of progress I've been able to make in the past year or so has just been like insane to me.

Doug Josh (01:25:35.250)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:25:42.871)

Mm-hmm.

Doug Josh (01:25:51.850)

Thank you. Bye.

Doug Josh (01:25:54.370)

Yeah, that's wonderful. I mean, it's something to be said about being thrown to the wolves to a certain extent because it's sink or swim. And usually you swim. You know, especially if you want if you want to, if you're you know what I mean, if and you don't ever hear from the people who say.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:26:06.102)

Thank you. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:26:12.850)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:26:14.070)

So it's a watch. So it's always great. You only, I talked about this a couple episodes ago, you only hear from the survivors. That's true man. That's true. But I mean it's, it's, go ahead please.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:26:23.102)

That is very true. Well, and it's great. Oh yeah, and it's great too now that like, all these people want us to come work at our job. Like we've been pretty much saying no to work because we're just swamped, but they want us to be there. Like one of our contractors wants us to take all their work and it's because of all, and which is, yeah, our quality and which is nice because I do most of the work for them. I'm like,

Doug Josh (01:26:38.514)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:26:46.297)

your quality.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:26:53.463)

That's cool because like it's reflective of me, you know

Doug Josh (01:26:57.230)

Yeah, yeah man. It makes a difference. It's like it's funny how like not and not everywhere but the bars like Josh said the bars low and it's funny how like I've kind of always had that those instances where like you shoot really high for something or like I'm such as I'm we're all kind of the same where we're like driven like I want to do something and I want to really learn it I don't want to half acid I want to get my put my all into this and I've always been that way in the military whatever

Marty Humerickhouse (01:27:01.902)

Doug Josh (01:27:27.150)

I found almost every place I've gone, I've turned around and been like, well, where the fuck is everybody at? Like, not many people are like that. And it's so like you're, you're ahead of the game in that respect that you're just driven and you're focused and you're, you're, you just are, you're where you're at in the process, but you're working toward self improvement. And that's awesome.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:27:32.383)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Marty Humerickhouse (01:27:47.742)

Yeah, and I think for apprentices like kind of out there or journeymen, you know, kind of trying to make their way up and you'll You can really see those people like differently like the people are just getting by or the people that are striving to really learn Are asking You know, or I'll have other electricians. I have other like companies calling me being like, hey, what's the code on this? You know, it's it's a guy that

Doug Josh (01:28:08.350)

Thank you. Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:28:17.702)

we're friends with, you know, a local electrician. He's like, hey, what's the code on this? Or I could call him and be like, hey, what's radio rod? You know? And yeah. So I think like if you're going to do it and you know you're going to stick and you want to move up, you really have to go for it. You know what I mean?

Doug Josh (01:28:19.472)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:28:27.670)

Sure. Yeah man, it's great.

Doug Josh (01:28:43.231)

Yeah, you have to be doing the things that you're doing where you come home and you keep Researching because you were not satisfied that you didn't know what that shit was. I and this were the same way Yeah Come home googling how can I take over shones? How style take over

Marty Humerickhouse (01:28:53.722)

Yeah, that drives me nuts. I do not like not having an answer. You know

Marty Humerickhouse (01:29:03.796)

Yeah, peace and peace.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:29:07.482)

And people kind of like ask me, I go like you start your own. I'm like, nah, I'm gonna stay with Sean. Like I like where I'm at. You know, like I'm fine with what I'm doing. And as long as I can live around here.

Doug Josh (01:29:15.370)

Yes.

Doug Josh (01:29:19.410)

Yeah, well, I mean, especially, yeah, and it's, it depends on where you work to and who you work for. Some people are great at giving some people recognized talent and hard work and effort and they get out of your way and they say you're, that's what I'm looking for. That's Doug's dream. Sorry, buddy. It is, it's so true. It's like, oh, you're better than I am. By all means. Have at it. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:29:40.237)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:29:45.762)

Well, and that's like where I want to be is like be able to take over, run jobs, but also not have the stress of owning a business. And that's mostly why I'm like, oh man, like I just want to be all come home. I'm sure I'll still obsess over a job, you know.

Doug Josh (01:29:52.350)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:29:55.990)

Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:29:59.672)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:30:03.470)

Dude, you are a boss's dream. You are. It's true. Like a guy who is motivated, does good work, but enjoys not necessarily doing all of it. It's like because most of the people, I feel like anyone who works for you is usually in a transitional period where it's like if they're really good, they're not going to be with you long. Every now and then you hear about guys who are just like work really well

Marty Humerickhouse (01:30:06.553)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:30:14.605)

Yeah, I think.

Doug Josh (01:30:33.590)

and work well with the boss and they like their role and they're good at it and they train people and they give back and it's like Yeah, that's a awesome thing to have. It is man. It's an awesome thing to offer to do. It's like yeah There's so much and that's another that's another example of the bar being low like there's a there's an attitude in in as an employee of like Better than this. I don't need this shit these I could do this shit better It's like that attitude doesn't get you very far It's a it shows that you lack full perspective

Marty Humerickhouse (01:30:42.406)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:31:03.330)

of how everything actually works. And so, you know, it's so funny. If you just come into a setting and you want to learn and you're interested in the first place, it's a home run. Like, I can't, any young people listening.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:31:22.270)

Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:31:24.050)

care, just care, just come into a thing and try and be there and like be ready every single day and you'll do so well.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:31:25.886)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:31:33.982)

Yeah, and you know, and even caring, I think, about the job even goes as small as like, you know, that's why I think you post something like about sweeping, you know, like we sweep up our job sites and clean up and, you know, yeah.

Doug Josh (01:31:48.971)

We swifed. We swifed. We get detailed. Dude, I got Windex on my van. Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:31:53.662)

Yeah, we have vacuums and I mean I have like moving mats and like when we go to a job to do finish we put moving mats over the kitchen counters, you know so we're not setting our stuff on people cabinets and

Doug Josh (01:32:01.013)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:32:04.832)

Nice, yep.

Doug Josh (01:32:08.550)

correct. It goes a long way. Those little details go a long way.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:32:12.842)

Yeah, you know, the contract, you know, they come in, you see you do, and then you're caring for the job. So it's like, okay, yeah, I want them back, like, you know, compared to, yeah.

Doug Josh (01:32:21.150)

Right. Set the tone. Mm hmm. Yeah, I can't tell you how many people went out. Well, I'll be putting drop drop cloth on the floor before I do something. I can't tell you how many people have said none of the other contractors do that. Well, you put on your shoe protectors and the plumber looks at you and goes, come on, man, you're looking make me look bad. I'm like, I got extras.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:32:25.902)

But yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:32:34.964)

Really?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:32:40.542)

Yeah, we did a job on Sunday and we're just adding can lights into this house. You know, I think two bedrooms. You know, we were able to finish it in four hours, but we had their bedrooms looking like a hazmat station, you know, like plastic everywhere, movie mats, runners, like everything was covered. And by the time we clean up, there's no, you know, minimal vacuuming and cleaning up. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:33:02.370)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:33:06.850)

Yeah. That's their bedroom. It's their house. That's the mentality. It's like that's a person's bed. Yeah. Yeah. Take care of it. Yeah. It goes so far. Be respectful. Yeah. Just be respectful. It's not your house. Yeah. Yeah. I think folks steer clear of residential to some extent because of the, it is a tight butthole most of the time. The amount of work and stress that's not even

Marty Humerickhouse (01:33:10.402)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:33:14.844)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:33:18.282)

Yeah, just be respectful, you know.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:33:22.842)

Yep, exactly.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:33:33.123)

Thank you. Bye.

Doug Josh (01:33:36.850)

related to electrical work. It's, it's tricky. Yeah, I bet, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:33:38.202)

Yeah, well, especially custom homes where things could just change all the time. Like I, in this one little section where they're trying to decide the lights is gone from sconce to can to like a sconce to possibly track. And I was like, okay, I'm not going to touch this line until we have an official answer, you know. But yeah, and I think Kevin was getting a little frustrated the other day because.

Doug Josh (01:33:56.335)

Yep.

Doug Josh (01:34:01.650)

Good. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:34:08.781)

you know, we had to go make changes. And he's like, man, like we have to keep redoing stuff. Like it's just custom homes, you know? I was like, yeah. And being able to avoid some of those or call it out in the very beginning of a job, like, hey, do you guys do in floor heat? Are you doing towel warmers? Or is there any extra stuff? Like do you want a place to plug in your vacuums, you know?

Doug Josh (01:34:15.490)

Yeah, sometimes it's messy. Practice. It's repetition.

Doug Josh (01:34:26.750)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:34:35.450)

Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:34:38.521)

And to think about those unaccountable things that contractors don't think about, you know, or people, I would say.

Doug Josh (01:34:43.790)

right? Yeah, yeah, and if you're the one who makes that cool suggestion to the client, it really sticks out too. If you're the one who's like, oh, hey, what about, you know, have you thought about a towel warmer? Like, oh, oh, yeah, I saw it. I saw that somebody had that. I, you know, they just weren't thinking about it, right?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:34:50.928)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:34:56.602)

Yep.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:34:59.462)

Well, I think I suggested for sconces over the bed with switches. You know, we'll see how that works out. I think, you know, because I think they're going to be too low. I keep trying to tell them, like, hey, that's really low. You're at 29 inches. The standard nightstand is, I think, 30 to 32 inches. And like even that, like I looked up standard nightstand height, you know? So knowing that. And I'm like,

Doug Josh (01:35:06.250)

Hmm.

Doug Josh (01:35:24.550)

That's right. Yeah. Sure, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:35:29.482)

I'm like, no, go ahead and put it there. So I created a backup in case that doesn't work to where I can install, you know, like a radio raw switch or, you know, whatever system we're gonna do, and we could do Pico's nightstand, you know. So like thinking about things that could be an issue later on, you know, and kind of preparing for some of that. And so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go ahead and put it there.

Doug Josh (01:35:46.557)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:35:55.070)

right? And that comes from experience, right? That comes from being in that situation and feeling the sting of not accounting for something that you could have. You know what I mean? And then you're like, I'm never again. I will always remember that. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:35:56.907)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:36:03.742)

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I'm like, all right. Like, yeah, so doing a bunch of that, I feel like I'm always trying to account for things that might happen. And a lot of there's been times where we've come back and like, Oh, do you know what? I want this, you know, this light and this light to be actually switched separate, because they're two different styles. I'm like, great, because I ran

Doug Josh (01:36:17.576)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:36:32.950)

just little deep. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, all little stuff. Are you gonna keep in notes? Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:36:34.355)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:36:40.602)

I've been using my Apple Notes, you know, I've been trying to integrate that a little bit more. And so I actually have it broken down to like parts, rough and finish, customer notes, you know, questions. But the only problem I have is like trying to do it on my phone. It drives me kind of nuts, you know. So I've been kind of thinking about getting an iPad Pro with a pen, you know, kind of.

Doug Josh (01:36:44.050)

Okay. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:36:53.150)

Cool.

Doug Josh (01:37:02.381)

Yeah. Sure.

Doug Josh (01:37:09.091)

He's got the pen. Yeah, but let's say, man, I run the whole business off the phone. You know, it's my iPad, but it's dust. Yeah. But that's, that's, well, just because it's like. Phone's in the pocket already. Yeah, man. I've, it's like, I always have the times that I take the notes or write the emails are always when I'm in between things where I don't have the computer, I don't have the iPad. You know, I'm, you know, it's five minutes while I'm waiting for a customer or, you know, 10 minutes while I'm waiting for a customer or, you know, 10 minutes.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:10.047)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:14.546)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:17.026)

Really?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:21.627)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:30.224)

Yep.

Doug Josh (01:37:37.750)

waiting at the supply house. So it's like, just kind of how it pans out. I do love the pen. Actually my daughter loves the pen more than I do. Yeah, my daughter uses the iPad. Yeah, I open up my iPad and I go to notes and it's like, doodle, doodle, doodle, doodle. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:39.144)

through.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:45.203)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:37:52.862)

Yeah, well it's like I have to sometimes take better notes because I'll do like two phrase words, you know, or like even when I do my checklist, I have to remember like, oh Kevin's seeing this too because it'll be like stair light, you know, it's like, okay we're about to stair light, but that's, yeah.

Doug Josh (01:38:00.890)

Okay.

Doug Josh (01:38:11.330)

code right yeah yeah I started when I would make a material list for the for myself for a job I started writing it as if I'm gonna put it in an email to the supply house or to or whatever it is to a customer because that does happen sometimes where I want to be able to just copy and paste but I'm like oh man I got all my abbreviations in there the supply house doesn't know what any of it is so I just got into the habit of making sure that like when I write a material list for me I write it so that they could read it and then if I need

Marty Humerickhouse (01:38:29.807)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:38:36.709)

Hmm.

Doug Josh (01:38:41.350)

to just copy and paste. It's done.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:38:43.202)

Yeah. Yeah, because I think when I first started doing it, I was like all in deals like, oh, but I could scan documents, you know, and I was like scanning in, like the blueprints or like manufacturer details or stuff that they had, you know, and which was great because I was like, okay, Sean could see it. I shared the notes of Kevin could see it updates. And then, but then I also felt like I was taking up so much time, you know, like trying to,

Doug Josh (01:38:56.212)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:39:13.162)

to try to find a balance between the two, I think, of where I'm not spending two hours, like, doing a ton of notes, you know?

Doug Josh (01:39:16.332)

Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:39:21.150)

Yeah, I try to, I try to keep templates. I've mentioned it on here before. I like, if I'm, if I'm writing a, say I'm doing a proposal for a heavy up, I'll template it. I'll just, I'll just copy and paste that proposal. So, and I'll, and I'll basically put it in my notes under my template file, but it's like heavy up single family home. And then the next heavy up will be, uh, maybe like 400 amp head. And so basically those, I'm already writing the proposal. So I'm just, I'm just like,

and then saving it in my template. So the next time I have a 400 amp heavy up, I'll have to change some things. But the meat and potatoes are there, so I don't have to spend the whole time thinking like, how do I word that again? We do the same thing with emails to customers. So whether it's like, I have, you know, under my notes and it's like rejection email, confused email, it's like, email based off of what the customer is saying. And it's like, so I don't have to rewrite the whole thing. And it's like, we've already, it's already phrased nicely, I've swapped their names and like, you know, some basic stuff.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:39:55.209)

Oh, gotcha.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:40:03.106)

Never.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:40:09.346)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:40:12.364)

Mm-hmm

Marty Humerickhouse (01:40:21.527)

Yes.

Doug Josh (01:40:21.953)

Just try to make it as automated as possible because it's so much work.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:40:26.562)

Well, I made that mistake too, because I was working with the designer, the contractor, and I think the customers. And the contractor wanted to put the receptacle. So it's going to be Wainscoting in the powder bath. And they didn't want to have a receptacle, or he didn't want to have a receptacle like seen. So he's like, could we put it in the medicine cabinet, like behind this mirror? And so that email was going on.

around is then the designer chimed in and was like, wait, you know, why are we doing this? Or, you know, I was like, well, per code, you actually have to have it like an early accessible location within this amount of feet, unless it is part of a cabinet. You know, whether a medicine cabinet meets that requirement. So like that's kind of up to, yeah.

Doug Josh (01:41:24.410)

Yeah, might be up to the A to J.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:41:26.702)

But then what I realized is she got super confused and was like, so wait, are you seeing this plug at my house that's on the wall that's not code? So sometimes too much info, especially with code, is bad. And so I learned that from there. I'm like, okay, I don't have to explain or say code to customers. Like, let's say really specifically ask, give the short detailed version.

Doug Josh (01:41:41.670)

Yeah, agreed.

Doug Josh (01:41:57.650)

Sure, you're right. Yeah, we're not allowed, you know, yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:41:57.763)

Yes, no, we can't, we can't. Yeah, per code, this and this, we have it within six feet or three feet of the basin and they're like, wait, what does this mean? You know?

Doug Josh (01:42:07.432)

Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:42:11.030)

like great great work nerd. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, there's a part of you that wants is a party that wants to flex and be like, look at the Oh, yeah, it's like, that's your idea. 21. If you hear an electrician say basin, sick basin, you know, he's flexing. The designers like the what?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:42:13.082)

Yeah, exactly. It's totally, I was just like, oh my God, okay. So I learned from that, like, or

Marty Humerickhouse (01:42:23.027)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:42:26.622)

I think that's totally what it was. I was trying to flex like I know stuff and then I look bad because yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:42:40.663)

Uh-huh. What? Yeah. Like, this is considered a cabinet or is, you know, let's go to definition. Let me send you a picture. Yeah. Like.

Doug Josh (01:42:50.419)

You suggest to the whole email thread that you go to the definitions.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:42:53.562)

Yeah. So like even doing with the contractor and sometimes I find myself going on a tangent about code and I have to stop myself. I'm like, he's just looking for a yes or no answer. You know, will this work? No. You know, if you want an explanation, this is why, you know.

Doug Josh (01:43:01.592)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:43:04.072)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:43:07.116)

Yep.

Doug Josh (01:43:09.694)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:43:12.972)

here.

Doug Josh (01:43:15.390)

some C notes for explanations. That's right. I've got a template of it. I'll send you the template.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:43:17.334)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:43:22.244)

So yeah, that was a good, I think, lesson for me as being a journeyman of like, don't flex too hard. You know, yeah. You don't have to, you know, you know, code. You don't have to let everybody know code.

Doug Josh (01:43:26.350)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:43:30.250)

Yeah, right. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:43:34.950)

That's some like, there's gotta be like a kung fu, old kung fu phrase in there somewhere. I don't know what it is, but there's, that seems like some kung fu shit where it's like, you know, know how to use your sword, but don't use it type thing, you know? My wish. I don't know what it is, but I'm not sure. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't

Marty Humerickhouse (01:43:41.502)

Marty Humerickhouse (01:43:48.504)

Yeah, because I mean, I do like talking about code. And so that's what's been kind of nice, like trying to teach Kevin. And I'm hoping he, you know, he will pick up the code book that way we have debates over code, you know, I'm like, Hey, what's this? Or kind of refreshing me as well, you know.

Doug Josh (01:43:55.734)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:44:02.510)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:44:06.590)

Well, so Doug and I have a thing called Electric Club and it's basically because our wives don't care about code or electrical work. So if you're looking for a place to flex with fellow electricians who like to talk about code, we're down. Yeah, we're nerds enough to do. Yeah man. It's fun.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:44:09.508)

Bye bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:44:13.484)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:44:18.805)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:44:22.102)

Oh, that'd be cool. I know, Sarah probably knows more code than probably other apprentices, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:44:27.450)

I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

Marty Humerickhouse (01:44:39.022)

Uh, well, she'll talk to me about like hairdressing or, you know, um, cosmetology stuff like hair. And then I ended up knowing more stuff about hair than I feel like I should know, or like about nails and stuff, because then I'll start researching it. I'll start looking stuff up. You know, I'm like, I'm like, what is an agave treatment? I'm like, why?

Doug Josh (01:44:43.550)

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:44:52.290)

Yeah. Right. Sure. And then I'll start researching. How do I do Sean's hair?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:45:08.702)

What's the chemical to, you know, because... So, I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question.

Doug Josh (01:45:12.811)

Yeah. I've never looked up any of the hair stuff that my wife has seen. So there you go. See, she turns you out, but you equally turn her out. I turn her out too, that's true. Yeah. So it works. It's a good thing. Back and forth, you know, marriage. We're both married to seras who do hair. That's the only way to go.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:45:15.847)

No.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:45:22.722)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:45:29.543)

Yeah. Well, my, my problem is then is then like I start to look up too much and then, so I'll accidentally start mansplaining stuff. I'm like, well, I'm like, wait, did you do a three or two? Did you fade this? And she's like, shut up. This is my job, you know.

Doug Josh (01:45:41.090)

Dude, oh no. Oh no.

Doug Josh (01:45:48.670)

She's like, it's so important that you not finish that sentence.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:45:51.302)

Yeah, exactly. I'm like, oh my god. So I've gotten better at that. I have gotten, I'm working on it, but I'm like, OK. See, like you're mansplaining right now. I'm like, oh, OK.

Doug Josh (01:45:56.971)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:46:03.771)

She's like, I'm not your journeyman. I'm not your apprentice. Fortunately for me, my wife's job is way more complicated than mine, so I could never explain it to her. So, yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:46:05.846)

Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:46:12.132)

Thank you.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:46:15.522)

Yeah, she's actually came out and helped me on jobs. We've installed can lights before. Yeah. So, oh yeah. Oh yeah, no, she's great. And my hopes is too soon is Bobby who's almost 13. Eventually I can start taking him out on jobs and he can start helping me, you know. That's like my ultimate goal is to have him come work with me.

Doug Josh (01:46:19.290)

Oh, get out. All right. Damn, and you survived it. Your marriage survived. That's awesome. That's great. That's awesome.

Doug Josh (01:46:37.450)

There you go. Crack him in.

Doug Josh (01:46:45.270)

Great. So you got soft hands. Yeah, gotta, gotta strengthen them. We gotta sharpen them up. I suggested my wife come to work with me one day and she laughed at me. Yeah. That's the appropriate response. I was like, okay, babe.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:46:47.323)

Yeah. Oh yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:46:51.089)

Uh-huh.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:46:57.924)

I feel like Sarah was. Sarah would totally come to work. No, actually she helped me. Oh, she actually helped me do a side job the other day. We did, uh, I was running a bunch of, we, it was kind of like a sunroom and the customers wanted like five, um, outlets along this brick wall. So I was bending pipe and she was, um, hanging the boxes and hanging all the pipe up. Oh yeah. She helped me pull wire and stuff.

Doug Josh (01:47:22.110)

No shit. That's awesome. What? That's awesome, man. That's love. That's real love.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:47:25.042)

Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:47:31.450)

I don't think I've ever heard anything so romantic in my entire life. The notebook ain't got nothing on you and Sarah's relationship.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:47:35.222)

I mean, we always laugh about this. What does it mean? If you share each other's poop schedule, that's true love. Yeah, like, hey, you tell them where, when, and how, like you're gonna use the bathroom.

Doug Josh (01:47:45.890)

Yeah, that's right, man.

Doug Josh (01:47:51.250)

That's right. My wife and I might share the same schedule, but we definitely do not share the same velocity with which we put. Yeah. Yeah.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:47:58.503)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:48:04.131)

I mean business every time.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:48:05.466)

Oh, yeah. Yeah, she'll probably kill me. She's like, what the heck? Why did you talk about that?

Doug Josh (01:48:09.950)

Thank you. Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:48:14.870)

You'll notice I'm not saying anything because I'm one step ahead of you. Smart fella, smart fella. My wife doesn't listen to this shit. Oh, that's good. Good. Good. Yeah. She told me the other day she was like, she was like, I don't, I've never listened to your podcast. I was like, you shouldn't, you shouldn't listen.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:48:15.543)

Sorry, babe.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:48:24.949)

Oh, no, mine definitely will. All right, love you, babe. I have to say that.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:48:35.704)

Yeah, don't.

Doug Josh (01:48:39.770)

Yeah, it's fine. All right, brother.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:48:40.627)

Well, it's cool, I guess. Oh, go ahead, sorry.

Doug Josh (01:48:44.210)

I was gonna say we can cut it short, but what else you got?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:48:47.942)

So I was actually, it was kind of cool the other day, Maddie was at school and I don't know if the teacher had found it, but I guess she listened to a podcast from last time. And she's like, oh, you know, this guy Marty did a podcast, but Maddie didn't say nothing to teacher like, oh, that's my stepdad, you know. Yeah, so I know. Probably I probably embarrassed her.

Doug Josh (01:48:57.754)

Okay.

Doug Josh (01:49:02.034)

All right.

Doug Josh (01:49:05.490)

Really? Ouch! Dang, maybe she was just too nervous. Yeah, I mean, even... Probably. Even if it's supposed to be cool, it's embarrassing to a kid. Yeah, they're embarrassed about their own shadow. They are, so... That's true. Well, Marty, thanks for taking the time again, man. We always love checking in with you and hearing how things are going.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:49:17.702)

Oh yeah. Right.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:49:23.244)

Thank you. Bye.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:49:29.122)

Yeah, yeah, give another year, see where we're at, you know. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:49:32.450)

Yeah man, heck yeah, see how young Kevin's coming along. Yeah man, it's good to hear that you're in the process of all this stuff because this is where the real learning takes place, you know?

Marty Humerickhouse (01:49:41.743)

It really is, you know, and that's like, I feel like I'm just learning from this stage, you know, before I was apprentice. Now it's learning how to be a journeyman, how to run jobs. And I feel like right in the beginning of that process, you know, yeah.

Doug Josh (01:49:49.494)

Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:49:54.470)

Yeah. Yeah.

Doug Josh (01:49:58.610)

That's a fun place to be, man. Yeah, we'll keep up the good work. Keep up the motivation and the drive for learning. It's infectious.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:50:08.582)

yeah of course that thank you thank you for having me

Doug Josh (01:50:12.237)

Yeah man. It's great meeting you man.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:50:13.562)

Yeah, you too. Thank you.

Doug Josh (01:50:15.910)

Alright brother, we'll talk soon. Later. See ya.

Marty Humerickhouse (01:50:17.022)

All right, see ya.

Marty Humerickhouse 2 - Electric Interview

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